Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 00:02 -0500, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > That's the only thing that kept me from loosing my insanity. Dumb question: What are you left with if you lose your insanity? :-) -- * Butch Evans

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

Our entire user base is based on customers needing to buy a router since we run all of our CPE's in bridge mode. Just not enough processing power to be running other services on them. People don't like the initial $50 to go get a router before we get there but we make it up when they get installed

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

If the CPEs are bridged and customers own the router, how do you protect your network from people entering invalid or duplicate Ips or other nasty things that they might do? Thanks, Mark On 11/17/09 9:56 AM, "Andy Trimmell" wrote: > Our entire user base is based on customers needing to buy a r

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

I've always worried that by running the CPE's in bridging mode, really opens up the door for a teenage hacker to have a field day snooping the network. On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 09:56 -0500, Andy Trimmell wrote: > Our entire user base is based on customers needing to buy a router since > we run all

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

If someone made a CPE that did NAT properly with the Tranzeo mounting bracket and Ethernet cover, I'd switch to them in a heartbeat. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wirele

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

Buy NS2 Rip Tranzeo down (slide down or smash the Ethernet cover Install NS2 ??? PROFIT!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

Kurt, Have you tried Ubiquiti? We have about 140 of them installed. At least 100 are set as routers doing NAT. So far results have been positive. Mark Country Connections Washington Court House, OH On 11/17/09 10:23 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" wrote: > If someone made a CPE that did NAT properly wi

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

Same here, although we never had any troubles with Tranzeo NAT either (we run PPPoE/NAT on all w/client isolation on AP). Regards Michael Baird > Kurt, > > Have you tried Ubiquiti? We have about 140 of them installed. At least 100 > are set as routers doing NAT. So far results have been positive.

Re: [WISPA] Intermittant connectivity

The trees/ brush grew up, when installed the signal was more like -78. The problem is I have other towers/ aps with similar customers, ones whose links have degraded over time due to foliage and those AP's seem fine. Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

Deliberant - hands down. Have not had a problem with anything at all like this. We dropped Tranzeo a few years ago for other reasons, and are very happy we did. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tue

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

I run everything client in as a router (no nat) and have a central nat server. no pesky nat tables at the client end, or my end (MT, 1gb ram, 1.2ghz p3) and never sees more then ~15% cpu. AP's run in bridged mode for that few extra cycles, with a MT behind em. Mark Stephenson wrote: > If the CPEs

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

Just placed my first order for Ubiquity NS2's 5 minutes ago... Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Stephenson Sent: Tuesday, Novem

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

Well, that's pretty amazing too, they are hard to find, Ubiquity has supply issues, NS2's seem to be in short supply right now, NS2-L's are available though. We use more Loco's though, so that is good for us, get the NanoBracket/LocoBracket's as well, they really make installation a breeze. Re

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

Go Kurt go! I think you will be pleased and it is especially nice that the order did not cost as much as it would with other solutions. Ubiquiti is not perfect either, but there seems to be real value there. Most of our new installs are Ubiquiti now days unless the units are sold out. On 11/17/09

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

I'll take my happy delusions any day over your miserable reality. Gary Garrett wrote: > Reality. > > > >> Dumb question: What are you left with if you lose your insanity? :-) >> >> > > > > WISPA Wants You!

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles

Can anyone send me the list of Stimulus applicants one of our members compiled and offered a few weeks back. Al Schneider 440-247-7501 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gary Garrett [ggarr...@nidaho.net] Sent: Tue

[WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the house. My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the same as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone line? Most of our customers have cell phone only and their internal wiring is virtually unus

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

I do this when the customer has a "smart closet" It works great. Until we get Gig-E wireless... then boy oh boy, I might have to do some re-wiring! ryan On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: > We current

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

You may not have to rewire...depends a lot on the distance of the link, but Cat 3 will work. Ryan Spott wrote: I do this when the customer has a "smart closet" It works great. Until we get Gig-E wireless... then boy oh boy, I might have to do some re-wiring! ryan On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

Cat3 == phone line phone line != Cat3 Phone wiring doesn't even have to make the scale of categories. A lot of the phone wiring is put in daisy chained with wire nuts, by electricians, homeowners, etc... On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 01:12:10PM -0800, Forbes Mercy wrote: > We currently run a Cat5 in

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

Old cat3 has a myriad of stubs...it's awful. You'll never figure out what's happening. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: R

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

...unless, a knowledgeable architect did a 100% home run to a wiring closet...then you have a chance. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:41 PM To: 'W

Re: [WISPA] 8 Fiber Port Managed Switch

Unless space is a major issue, it is usually much more economical to get a copper managed switch and use media converters to go from copper to fiber. -Clint Ricker On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > Anyone know of an affordable 8 port

Re: [WISPA] 8 Fiber Port Managed Switch

Also, if this is for use for customers, a side benefit is that the the media converter on the CPE end can be used as a good demarc point from which you can do some basic monitoring. This is a fairly common practice for companies doing metro Ethernet offerings. -Clint Ricker On Tue, Nov 17, 2009

Re: [WISPA] 8 Fiber Port Managed Switch

This would probably do what you need http://cgi.ebay.com/Cisco-WS-C2924M-XL-EN-2924M-X29240-XL-V-DC-Fiber-Switch_W0QQitemZ130328914048QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Hubs?hash=item1e58356880 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

Enough pairs for data and power? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Forbes Mercy" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:12 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 > We curr

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

100Mbps on cat 3? Really? On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: > We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the house. > My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the same > as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone line?

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old barbwire! -Kevin On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG wrote: > 100Mbps on cat 3? Really? > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy > wrote: > >> We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the house. >> My q

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

Cat3 is only 3 pair is it not? On 11/17/09, Mike Hammett wrote: > Enough pairs for data and power? > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Forbes Mercy" > Sent: Tuesday, November 17,

Re: [WISPA] 8 Fiber Port Managed Switch

This is for our side. We need gigabit fiber for our Bridgewave links since they don't support 1Gbps ethernet. Where customers need fiber due to long runs, we typically use fiber converters. We ended up using Tom's suggestion of the Netgear and found one on E-bay cheap with 7 GBICs included. Fun

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

That would be great! But, I cant find anything on the net except references to the standard being 10Mbps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable Any examples? On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Neal wrote: > With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old barbwire! > >

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

Phone line is twisted pair and normally 2 pair. Transmit and receive. Can easily do 100mbps. You could even get it to do gigabit with not much effort. No PoE though, no pair for that. HOWEVER, the problems come from the nasty connections everyone including the phone company has made. Most phon

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

Just think about it, Cat5 is 4 pair. You need 2 pair for transmit and receive. 4 conductors total. We sometimes use one of the other pair for PoE and the other pair is "lost". Cat5 is twisted pair, so is phone wire. Twisted for the same reasons. The conductors on phone wire are thicker giving m

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

Guys, The "Category" rating has to do with the number of twists per inch. The more twists the more the noise cancels out. Noise screws up Data. Noise usually comes from AC power somewhere. The lower the cat number the more screwed up your Data will be. Period. Robert West wrote: > Phone line is

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

When I worked for Qwest they were doing a study of using railroad rails as a communication medium as well as pipelines. As long as it will conduct current, you can signal through it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kev

Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

True. With the right conditions, even untwisted will do 100mbps but in a house and running through walls, rarely would the right conditions exist. But if you aren't pushing 100mbps, only maybe 1, 2 or 10 it could work. But you still have the unknown factors, like the splice block in the crawl spa