Speak firmly and borrow that big stick from Roosevelt when necessary.
Fear of God is useless but Fear of Dad is profound. I raised 5 kids,
youngest is 32, still works, no stick necessary, they just know where i
keep it.
Frank
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Here's the scenario. My kids
My soon to be 4 and 7 yo boys have iMacs. They are locked down and
just do not know about that stuff yet. I removed
access to the web browser in the PSP cause the oldest found it. He
does not know how to use it (or so I think). The best
parents can do these days is be very proactive which you seam
On that note, I have a few questions.
On those 40-50 802.11 subs, what kind of bandwidth are the users
seeing/are you selling them?
Do you count a polling MAC on a 802.11 chipset, say Ubiquiti AirMax,
in with 802.11?
My assumption would be that with a polling MAC on 802.11 chips you
should see ne
Depends on how you build it. The backhauls are bridged, but there is
routing between key backhaul points (I make triangles)
Every tool has its place and used right, works well.
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists
wrote:
> When to route? From the very start!!!
>
> If you take
Right on schedule, its time for the 802.11 vs Canopy crusades.
If you deploy it right, you should be able to get about 40-50 subs on
802.11 based APs. If your application is going to require higher
density than that, go with Canopy, as you can probably get 120-150 per
AP before they max out.
Hi All,
Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden from having email
addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from having myspace,
facebook etc. sites.
If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check on.
If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a r
When to route? From the very start!!!
If you take the time to learn the basics of OSPF, implement NAT and/or
use private IPs for the links between systems and use a logical design
for your subnets it is relatively easy to route. Understanding the
basics of OSPF is really key, because static
Yes if you route at the CPE then the backhauls can bridge and your
(mostly) good (this is how i do it)
What you need to worry about here is clients who plug in their routers
backwards and things like that.
It helps if you do not have client routers (routing/dhcp in the CPE,
switch inside)
On Tue,
Question: If you have all client computers behind a router, then you are
mostly protected from broadcasting and the need for routing is not that
high, right?
I have a small network and I'm starting to do some routing between
longer backhaul links, and between cities. So far, I don't know if I've
s
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
>>But for the
>>price of Ubiquiti gear it seems very interesting to investigate what
>>could be done.
>
> Well, thats the golden question...
>
> We dont currently use Ubiquiti yet in a live network, but we cant ignore the
> value proposition.
> W
>But for the
>price of Ubiquiti gear it seems very interesting to investigate what
>could be done.
Well, thats the golden question...
We dont currently use Ubiquiti yet in a live network, but we cant ignore the
value proposition.
When APs are $90, do we need APs that scale?
But we do need radios
We're up to about 400 subs on one half of the network. We're about to start
routing. We'll know in a few months if it helps or not.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: "Greg Ihnen"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:02 AM
Subject: [WISPA] When to route?
> OK, I
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net
wrote:
> After some large "experiments" with Ubiquiti.. Canopy 430 here we
> come! Too many problems with latency and WDS re-reg issues. These
> seem to work pretty well for PtP links, but PtMP is just terrible for
> VoIP or anythin
It could be the same board minus the voltage regulator. And the new
production line will have the regulator.
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Scott Carullo
wrote:
> If its the same board why is it a completely different power
> configuration?
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x
Hi Chuck,
Do you have any field review/ deployment info comparison of the new
Canopy 430 ? I would love to hear some comparison info..
Thanks
Faisal.
On 4/13/2010 10:06 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
> This is what I am in the process of doing now. We have another 200 subs
> to be converted next month
Tom,
With no security or security set to WPA2-AES and the latest beta firmware
there are no WDS problems with the new gear - I have plenty of them out
there doing their job just fine.
As with any radio, you can certainly probably find ways to configure them
to have them not perform so well.
S
If its the same board why is it a completely different power
configuration?
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
From: "Faisal Imtiaz"
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:24 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti made no poin
They have been monitoring wisp "chatter" for years!!:)
--- On Tue, 4/13/10, Brian Webster wrote:
From: Brian Webster
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Fiasco Followup
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 8:23 PM
Big brother (my friend at the NTIA) should be subscribed to t
This is what I am in the process of doing now. We have another 200 subs
to be converted next month. Then another 100 subs after that. Not only
is it a multiple truck roll incident, but I already paid for the
MikroTik gear...and now am replacing customer equipment with Canopy.
ROI just got extend
Awesome overview - thank you.
On Apr 13, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Let's keep it simple and easy. With Canopy your system can scale
> infinitely (due to GPS sync) and latency is always very low and
> consistent (less than 10ms). With UBNT, you can build a system much
> che
Absolutely. MikroTik has in many instances taken supout's from many
different people, and fixed a bug without reporting it. Maybe they look
at it as a minor feature enhancement. (LOL)
Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com
-Original Mes
Are you suggesting they might not always fess up, but sneak the fix in :-)
I'll probably test it again in a few days, just in case.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: "Travis Johnson"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Tues
Hi,
Let's keep it simple and easy. With Canopy your system can scale
infinitely (due to GPS sync) and latency is always very low and
consistent (less than 10ms). With UBNT, you can build a system much
cheaper, and one that will probably work in a small, rural area.
However, it does not scale.
Man is that true or what.
Not sure if it's intentional or just an unknown/unforeseen side effect.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Ch
One thing I have learned over the years with Mikrotik... they often make
many other "changes" that they don't specifically list in their text
document.
Travis
Microserv
Tom DeReggi wrote:
> Misread
>
> I did NOT see any specific mention of fixes for N. That's disappointing.
>
> But I saw n
BTW, Beta 5 was released today.. supposed to address auto ack...
Faisal
On 4/13/2010 8:07 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
> The recently released firmware (last few days), is the first that really
> works well on the station side (for P2MP), AP is still a bit broken
> w/auto ack. I've not had an issue
Well, my hats off to your NTIA friend for taking an interest.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Webster"
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Fiasco Fo
Also
Are these problems operating in a MIMO mode, or single chain/pol mode?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: "can...@believewireless.net"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:00 PM
Subject: Re:
> WDS re-reg issues
Care to elaborate with that? We run everything bridged (WDS) with other
brands.
Were you running into issues using Ubiquity as both AP and SU in PtMP, or
with other brand as the other?
> but PtMP is just terrible for
> VoIP or anything that can't handle latency spikes.
What
Actually, both work together ... we extend our Canopy PPPoE bridged segments
with Ubnt's for el-cheapo point-to-point extensions ...
Sort of a Moto Canopy P2MP-to-UBnt(P)-to-UBnt(P)
F.
On 2010-04-13, at 8:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> It's not so much what you're discussing there as much as the
It's not so much what you're discussing there as much as the capabilities of
the ptmp products.
You simply can not offer the latency guarantees using Ubiquiti/802.11 that
Canopy provides.
Now if you've got 3 people to serve I think it's financially ridiculous to
get a Canopy system involved...
J
Big brother (my friend at the NTIA) should be subscribed to this list now
:-)
Thank You,
Brian Webster
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jason Bailey
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject:
Hmm Interesting..
My first Airgird , I assembled it wrong, I put the Radio in the center at 90deg
of what it should have been, and was not able to see any signal from the Rocket
M5's.
It had an accident, fell flat on it's face on concrete and broke the Radio..
The 2nd Airgrid I tested was t
In trying to make the right buying decision - some simple answers may
help.
1. What is the meantime failure rate for your ubiquity equipment
2. What is the avg amount of truck rolls per week you run to fix an
issue vs the # of customers you have?
ie- if you have say 1500 clients and do 8
On 04/13/2010 06:50 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
> Apparently my tirade about broadband mapping reached a few ears in
> Washington, as the NE PSC called me this afternoon to let me know that
> the NTIA is willing to accept shape files and is willing to relax some
> of the data requirements in
have you worked w/ ubiquity for any troubleshooting?
been pretty happy here w/ them ... just wondering
I love moto - but just so blessed expensive...
I am wondering if they are really worth the $$$
So as not to hijack your thread - I will post this question in a new
thread...
On Apr 13, 2010
The recently released firmware (last few days), is the first that really
works well on the station side (for P2MP), AP is still a bit broken
w/auto ack. I've not had an issue with WDS reassociations, maybe you
were using auto-ack?
Regards
Michael Baird
> After some large "experiments" with Ubiq
what are the rates on the 430?
are they not up around 10K ?
On Apr 13, 2010, at 8:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
> Canopy 430
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After falling in like with the Rocket M Nano's the Rocket M Bullets and
the Mimos I have to say I'm firmly unimpressed with the integrated
antenna series. We bought a pack of 10 of the 27dbi grids, not one of
them would associate to our Mimos yet a bullet and in some cases, where
distance wasn
After some large "experiments" with Ubiquiti.. Canopy 430 here we
come! Too many problems with latency and WDS re-reg issues. These
seem to work pretty well for PtP links, but PtMP is just terrible for
VoIP or anything that can't handle latency spikes.
--
Misread
I did NOT see any specific mention of fixes for N. That's disappointing.
But I saw numerous updates. Anytime there is a kernel upgrade, its relevent,
in my opinion.
But posted from Mikrotik...
What's new in 5.0beta1 (2010-Mar-31 10:36):
*) updated drivers and kernel (to linux-2.6.
Big Brother is listening...S! lol:)
--- On Tue, 4/13/10, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
From: Matt Larsen - Lists
Subject: [WISPA] Broadband Fiasco Followup
To: "WISPA General List" , nnsq...@nnsquad.org, "Telecom
Regulation & the Internet"
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 6:50 PM
Apparentl
Apparently my tirade about broadband mapping reached a few ears in
Washington, as the NE PSC called me this afternoon to let me know that
the NTIA is willing to accept shape files and is willing to relax some
of the data requirements in order to get fuller representation from
WISPs.Making o
What do you mean 5 packs? Do you have to buy them in multiples of 5?!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill
On Tue, Apr 13, 20
It is impressive packaging.
But why the heck is it in 5 packs? How do I make a 5 pack work in bridge mode? Should be an even number.
t
> Would you rather something get damaged in shipping?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH
Would you rather something get damaged in shipping?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 6:24 PM, can.
Do they really need to wrap every, single part?!?!?!? Two packages of
screws are wrapped and place in another
bag that also holds the mounting clamps. RocketDishes have the large
bolts covered and wrapped, placed in
plastic and zip tied.
I've seen food with less "sanitary" methods.
---
I doubt Nano2s do layer 2 VLAN tagging but I don't have the experience to talk
that in-depth about it. There is probably a backdoor way (like Faisal talked
about) but I would just suggest a layer2/3 device that does it by port behind
the AP. You can find them pretty inexpensively.
-Jeff
Conve
Tom,
What fixes have you seen in 5 for Wireless-N? Or did I mis-read this?
Randy
RandyAnd they are not the only ones For example, I'm amazed at how far
> Mikrotik has come, considering feature rich for the dollar.
> (Note: MIkrotik released new Firmware, a 5 vers, does not list any wir
I look at it a different way...
Ubiquiti has been a disruptive force to set a new base level standard for
expectations.
Any new product is going to lack features and possibly reliabilty as bugs
get discovered.
But Ubiquiti established that in today world, it is possible to deliver $100
radios,
I was going to say the same, so I will add, I put MT's behind UBNT's
to handle the IP layer. I let the UBNT hardware
do the RF layer, which they do pretty well.
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> The Nano's run Openwrt under the hood. The only thing proprietary on
> them is
Yeah, funny, does not look like we are making much progress after 18 years
does it.
But we could compare on different criteria, and add Proxim's current
generation. That is Just for Fun...
--AP1000 UbiquitiTsunami MP11a
Speed 3mbps
The Nano's run Openwrt under the hood. The only thing proprietary on
them is the 'radio driver'.
you can download the SDK kit and do mods, such as adding ospf or oslr or
even quagga.
There are a number of folks who have posted how to recipes on the UBNT
forums on vlans and multiple ssid's etc.
Beta vs VHS, MAC vs PC, Cadillac vs Hyundai, Sacks5thAve vs Walmart,
Gas vs Electric...
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Jeremy Parr wrote:
> On 13 April 2010 11:52, MDK wrote:
>> Did you do a throughput comparison?
>
> It was mostly a joke, but I'll bite. A throughput comparison is not
> fair,
Has anyone had experience getting the Nano products to support multiple VLANs I
looked at the forum but wasn't able to decipher a clear answer. Does it
require a third party software patch?
Tracy Tippett
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Sent: Tue, 13 Ap
On 13 April 2010 11:52, MDK wrote:
> Did you do a throughput comparison?
It was mostly a joke, but I'll bite. A throughput comparison is not
fair, since they both just leverage someone else's chipset. My point
was simply that if a low end wifi based product had these features 10+
years ago, why t
And a price comparison?
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:52 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirOS Comparison
Did you do a throughput comparison?
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