Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
But a Ubiuiti radio could do that for 500. A ptp230 or 250 could get close. Mikrotik could do that for probably 500. Double up on hardware and you're still way under budget. On Jul 28, 2011 1:25 AM, "Matt Larsen - Lists" wrote: > I have had one of the Ligowave (SAF) 24ghz 100meg radios in servi

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I have had one of the Ligowave (SAF) 24ghz 100meg radios in service for almost two years on a three mile link. It has been an outstanding piece of equipment in the time that we have had it.A few months ago, after a discussion on list, we figured out that we did not have the cross-polariza

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
SAF center freqs goes from 24170 to 24230, so you have 60 Mhz of Space for the TX channel . Using cross Pol and separation you "could" fit 3 50 mhz channels. But on the SAF you can adjust channel size from 20 mhz to 56 mhz... so that gives you some wiggle room... a 20 mhz channel would give you

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I was just kind of thinking what use there would be for a 100 mbps radio in 24 Ghz. Limitation of just a couple of miles like 60 Ghz, too. Unless the two other ethernet ports can be used to aggregate more bandwidth? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Maybe it is. I am only going by word of mouth on that. That's why I said "I am told.." Don't want to put my foot in my mouth... :-) On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think this radio is for Licensed 24 ? Gino A. Villari

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Exalt will have one in 6 months but the SAF won't work on 3 non-overlapping channels. How many non-overlapping channels on the 350 Mbps SAF? On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > You can get similar unit from SAF, 350 Mbps FDX > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wirel

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
I can't say no way but I would not be comfortable with that distance. I've never seen a 23 Ghz six foot dish -B- On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: So no way for a 6 mile link even with 6 foot dishes? No idea what to put in a path calc without knowing gains of dishes. On Jul 27

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
6 miles go 18 or 24 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think this radio is for Licensed 24 ? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashe

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
So no way for a 6 mile link even with 6 foot dishes? No idea what to put in a path calc without knowing gains of dishes. On Jul 27, 2011 10:09 PM, "Bob Moldashel" wrote: > Anything from 1' on up. It has same characteristics of 23 Ghz. Radio > snaps on the back of the antenna. > > Need to do the p

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
You can get similar unit from SAF, 350 Mbps FDX Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:17 PM To

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Two more things... Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works :-) And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane for data...Not two. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Anything from 1' on up. It has same characteristics of 23 Ghz. Radio snaps on the back of the antenna. Need to do the path analysis. +10 dB tx and - 66 dB threshold. I would not do more than 2 miles with 2' but that's just me. -B- On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with them? On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > Nice! Price? > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > 787.273.4143 > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.or

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Street price is about $7500 with 1' antennas and 200 Mbps aggregate with power supplies. About a 4 week lead time. But 3 non-overlapping channels is the best On 7/27/2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > Nice! Price? > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
Nice! Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps. Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same or cheaper. I believe its 2 year warranty also. -B- On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote: > Has any

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Adam Greene
Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty good, in my book On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote: > This question has probably been asked on this list bef

Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Gerard Dupont
I've used the GXW4008 and GXW4004 in a few locations. They seem to work fine. One sip account can roll over to all 8 FXS ports which is kinda cool. The GXW4008 is ~$200.. Gerard On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > How m uch? > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > g...@aeronetpr.com

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti antennas for sale

2011-07-27 Thread Chris Stradtman
I'm interested in them Chris Stradtman On 07/27/2011 01:51 PM, Martha Huizenga wrote: Hi All, We have four NanoBridge M9's that we can't use and can't return.  Here's a link to the details. All out of the

Re: [WISPA] Voip over fixed wireless ubnt

2011-07-27 Thread Mike Hammett
From my furthest device to my offnet, public server in Chicago... 6 ms. I'm not sure it could be much better. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/27/2011 11:06 AM, Zach Mann wrote: How many are sucessfully doing this for businesses and what details

Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
How m uch? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
The 2102 can only do one 729 and only on the first port, there is no DSP for it on the second port. Never touched t38. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Patrick Shoemaker < shoemak...@vectordatasystems

Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Jeremy Parr
The "cisco small business" (read: linksys) ones aren't too bad. There is much better stuff out there, like audiocodes, but the price increase is dramatic. On 7/27/11, Gino Villarini wrote: > Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations? > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com

Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Yep it can do 8 simultaneous g.729, but only one T38 fax call per pair of lines. Subsequent fax calls will fall back to g711 passthru. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:58 To: WIS

Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I thought each port could do g729 at the same time? It's been a while since I used it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Patrick Shoemaker < shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> wrote: > Yep, it’s 4 SPA2

Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Yep, it's 4 SPA2102s in one box, minus the built-in router. Same config options and all. If you crack one open you can see it's 4 SPA2102 ASICs in there. Same limitations and all (one T38 call per pair of lines, etc.). They are very reliable and easy to configure. Same remote provisioning scheme

[WISPA] Ubiquiti antennas for sale

2011-07-27 Thread Martha Huizenga
Title: signature Hi All, We have four NanoBridge M9's that we can't use and can't return.  Here's a link to the details. All out of the box, but new. Two were used for indoor trials. All accessories included. Retail @ $199 each. Contact me off list i

Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
What Patrick said. I have one on the shelf if you're interested. It seems to work just as well as the SPA2x02. Dozens of deployed SPA2x02 have been amazing for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM, P

Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
SPA8000 -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:49 To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) Subject: [WISPA] 8 line ATA Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any r

[WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.

[WISPA] Voip over fixed wireless ubnt

2011-07-27 Thread Zach Mann
How many are sucessfully doing this for businesses and what details need to be looked at when making sure phones work ? A SIP company will no longer partner with me as they have a sour taste from 2 previous wisps that had high latency issues. -Zach --

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 43, Issue 24

2011-07-27 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 27 July 2011 04:35, Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe, wrote: > I have a windows sbs 2008 network. I'm wondering if I can use it to > restrict access to the internet as well as other resources for users. > Probably yes. You need to purchase a product called "WinGate" though and enable IPX tunneling over