[WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-20 Thread Scott Carullo
Anyone know of a radio that can just listen passively and scan through channels and report back on radar signals heard on what frequencies? That would be a great tool to have to scope out certain areas of interest to know ahead of time what radar DFS issues might be present... Scott Carullo B

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-20 Thread Adam Goodman
I had some trouble with radar (think it was radar) last year. Interferences could be from many sources. It sa problem because you can't just go sit there for a couple of weeks with a spectrum analyzer listening for noise. It would be nice if there was a reasonably priced logger. Or with Internet co

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-20 Thread Eje Gustafsson
April 20, 2009 3:51 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question I had some trouble with radar (think it was radar) last year. Interferences could be from many sources. It sa problem because you can't just go sit there for a couple of weeks

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-20 Thread Charles Wyble
Tools&Bc= > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Adam Goodman > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:51 PM > To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Quest

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-20 Thread Dennis Burgess - LTI
is slow and clunky and don't log any data. >> >> >> / Eje Gustafsson >> WISP-Router, Inc. >> http://store.wisp-router.com/items.asp?Cc=WiFiTools&Bc= >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-20 Thread lakeland
. Personally I think many radios false on noise instead of DFS. The only radios I have seen not take DFS hits are Exalts. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Scott Carullo" Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:37:57 To: WISPA General List Subject: [

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-20 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
w and clunky and don't log any data. >>> >>> >>> / Eje Gustafsson >>> WISP-Router, Inc. >>> http://store.wisp-router.com/items.asp?Cc=WiFiTools&Bc= >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From:

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-20 Thread Scott Carullo
uot;Eje Gustafsson" > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 5:01 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question > > The Wi-SPY devices are fairly affordable. And they support remote monitoring > both with Windows and Linux. So you could set one up

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-20 Thread Jack Unger
Probably any radio designed to work on 5250-5350 and 5470-5725 and that allowed you access via management system statistics to the field showing "radar events" (or similar). Scott Carullo wrote: > Anyone know of a radio that can just listen passively and scan through > channels and report back

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
o the other band, and free up the other :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Adam Goodman" To: ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Quest

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Scott Carullo
re kidding right Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message > From: "Tom DeReggi" > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:13 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question > > The only good answer

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
, April 21, 2009 10:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question The only good answer to combat DFS is to use directional PTP antennas with good F/B ratios. I'd give 5.4G back to the FCC in a heartbeat, if they gave us 5.3Ghz back without DFS and low power requirements.

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Scott Carullo
nt: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:46 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question > > Is it military radar or weather radar that operates in these bands? If it is > weather then we are lucky around here, our county is smack dab in the middle &

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Gino Villarini
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question You don't think your active transmitter can affect their weather radar? NOT Just because they have their gain tuned such that they can't hear a reflection off a baseball in your area doesn't mean your signal won't come

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
synced equip). But with the trend of Full Duplex comming back, it might not be to bad to use syncing. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Scott Carullo" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, A

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread lakeland
The DFS signature is not set for domestic radar. It is for military only. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Gino Villarini" Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:41:42 To: ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question WE saw thi

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
d for DFS2 successfully. Such as Tropo? Or if they are all still 5.8 and 2.4 systems? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini" To: ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, April 21,

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Gino Villarini
21, 2009 1:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question Maybe thats why the weather man always get the forcast wrong, those darn WISPs :-) OK, lets get real... I agree, we should not do anything that we know will purposely harm radar systems. But the FEDs negotiated teh DFS

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
ge- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:15 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question > > Maybe thats why the weather man always get the forcast wrong,

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Gino Villarini
PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question Its interesting to hear details of how it went down. I'm not suggesting it wasn't alot of work or difficult. But I was more bringing forward the point that I still don't see how its any different than what a WISP has t

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Scott Carullo
essfully. > Such as Tropo? Or if they are all still 5.8 and 2.4 systems? > > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Gino Villarini" > To: ; "WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
t;> out there, with DFS not being an original requirement of 5.3. But >> with >> 5.4Ghz, its a totally different animal, there was no legal 5.4 >> system not >> supporting DFS. >> I would find it highly unwise to use a non-certified 5.4Ghz system. >> >>

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
3 fax 787.273.4145 > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Scott Carullo > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:52 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question > >

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Blair Davis
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question You don't think your active transmitter can affect their weather radar? NOT Just because they have their gain tuned such that

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
& Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Blair Davis To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question All this DFS stuff makes me think that staying in the ISM bands makes more

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-22 Thread Scott Carullo
In an attempt to hear what MT had to say on the matter we have been discussing I asked them to clarify the statement that their system could / would ever be certified for DFS2... I didn't get as much info as I would have like to of received but this is what support had to say fyi... === If yo

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-22 Thread Dennis Burgess - LTI
They do have all of the radar patterns in it. However, I don't think they have went down the path to get certified. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Techn

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman
In other words the functionality is there but the paper that says it can does not exist? On 4/22/09, Dennis Burgess - LTI wrote: > They do have all of the radar patterns in it. However, I don't think > they have went down the path to get certified. > > * -

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

2009-04-22 Thread Dennis Burgess - LTI
very possible. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*