Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

etc. etc. etc. Pay for what you use, not what your neighbor uses. marlon From: Joe Fiero Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end I don’t comment all that often here, but very much pay attention to

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

Absolutely - I didn't mean to rekindle it here.  I'm just surprised when I see that kind of viewpoint, and I'm I'm trying to understand it a little better, hopefully with a lot less saber rattling than in that thread.  I currently agree with most of the posters in the NAN

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

And that was an extremely painful thread on NANOG, BTW On Thursday, July 31, 2014, Mike Lyon wrote: > Not this WISP... > > -Mike > > On Thursday, July 31, 2014, Tim Densmore > wrote: > >> On 07/31/2014 11:15 AM, Joe Fiero wrote: >> >> Netflix, Hulu, and the like have created a business mod

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

Not this WISP... -Mike On Thursday, July 31, 2014, Tim Densmore wrote: > On 07/31/2014 11:15 AM, Joe Fiero wrote: > > Netflix, Hulu, and the like have created a business model where they have > no cost to deliver a product to their users. They are using the > infrastructure built and paid for

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

I don't, no. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Tim Densmore" To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:31:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end O

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On 07/31/2014 11:15 AM, Joe Fiero wrote: Netflix, Hulu, and the like have created a business model where they have no cost to deliver a product to their users.  They are using the infrastructure built and paid for by others, then stirring up the ignor

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

order, often weeks if not days, by savvy users that > realize they can pull another stream and waste no time setting it up. > > > > The simple answer is, let the market decide. If you want Netflix, each > stream will cost you a monthly fee. Likewise for other streaming > services

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

ot; Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:45:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end Do you get the connection to that facility for free? This is just like every time the bandwidth cost discussion comes up. The prices that people post that they’re paying in carrier hote

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31, 2014 12:40:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end I don’t believe that to be most everyone’s gripe. Internet and transport are cheap in comparison to backhaul and the labor required to implement. We have around 250 links, if you take Netflix out of the equation,

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

fees. Just saying…… From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end You don't need NetFlix to pay you for a fast

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-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end You don't need NetFlix to pay you for a fast lane... just meet them in their dozen

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ssage - From: "Joe Fiero" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:15:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end I don’t comment all that often here, but very much pay attention to the voices of experience. On Net Neutrality, I ha

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

It has nothing to do with free speech. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:29:06 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutr

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

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monthly fee. Likewise for other streaming services. This way the user pays, not everyone. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The

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Oh it's great for business. Terrible for free speech. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > Or the beginning of new business opportunities for smaller companies. > > On 7/31/14

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

Or the beginning of new business opportunities for smaller companies. On 7/31/14, 11:07 AM, Clay Stewart wrote: > Or the beginning of new law suits > > On Jul 31, 2014 10:38 AM, "Josh Luthman" > wrote: > > > http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/30/12-a-

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

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[WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

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