Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Actually, I would argue that the great thing about wimax is not really interop- its lower costs on CPE. Until there is an agreed upon profile for WImax QOS, then literally everyone who buys wimax base stations will use the same manufacturers client devices. The only major difference is CP

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:46 AM, Charles Wu wrote: That is correct, however those companies are expected to be shipping product ( and are taking pre orders ) that will comply with the testing whenever the gods at wimaxforum decide to get off their collective arses and certify 5.8. Airspan for exam

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Agreed- interop is a great thing steve, but the problem is that currently no wimax profile requires any level of interop beyond simple bridging, which most operators will find that they want to use the QOS features so they can sell services such as voip. are these products i mentioned using t

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Matt Liotta
I didn't mean to imply that I am waiting on the technology. We use Orthogon today, which provides us all the capabilities of WiMAX and then some. However, the price point simply doesn't compete with Canopy for last mile use, which is why we continue to use it. We are waiting on the capabilities

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Steve Stroh
Matt: The "capabilities" of WiMAX ALREADY exist in the proprietary products of Alvarion, Redline, Aperto Networks, etc. WiMAX is a standardization of the lowest-common-denominator of those capabilities, with certified interoperability. If you've waited this long for "WiMAX" capabilities, an

RE: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Charles Wu
erto -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX? Ok, so far Jeff is the o

RE: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Charles Wu
hole different argument) -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subje

RE: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Charles Wu
on its intellectual property rights business. So -- this leads one to ask -- how "guaranteed" is a roadmap to WiMAX? -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAI

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Matt Liotta
The entire point of WiMAX may be interoperability, but from a fixed wireless standpoint interoperability is meaningless. When and if mobile WiMAX becomes interesting interoperability will be important. Until then there is no need for it in a fixed wireless network, so the certification badge is

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-05 Thread Steve Stroh
Jeff: If a system hasn't been through the interoperability testing, it ISN'T WiMAX - at all. Absent the certification of interoperability, at best what the vendors will be shipping and selling prior to achieving certification is a proprietary product with perhaps some "WiMAX features". Ven

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
That is correct, however those companies are expected to be shipping product ( and are taking pre orders ) that will comply with the testing whenever the gods at wimaxforum decide to get off their collective arses and certify 5.8. Airspan for example, already has wimax 4.9 product and is g

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
ril 03, 2006 6:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX? I thought Alvarion was Wimax, or wimax-able, or wimax compatible, or software-flashable to wimax. Wimax-ilicious, or something. pd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George From what we have seen most of the unlicensed

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Davis Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX? I thought Alvarion was Wimax, or wimax-able, or wimax

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-04 Thread Steve Stroh
Neat trick... considering... There is not yet a WiMAX 5.8 GHz interoperability profile. Because there is not yet a WiMAX 5.8 GHz WiMAX interoperability profile, there have not yet been any 5.8 GHz interoperability tests. Because there has not yet been any WiMAX 5.8 GHz interoperability tests,

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-04 Thread George
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Davis Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX? I thought Alvarion was Wimax, or wimax-able, or wimax compatible, or software-flashable to wimax. Wimax-ilicious, or something. pd [

RE: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-04 Thread Charles Wu
5 GHz -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Davis Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIM

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-04 Thread jeffrey thomas
George, Yes there is. Airspan and Aperto both have products and are taking orders now. - Jeff On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:16:46 -0700, "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > What is going on with unlicensed WIMAX? > Is there any products released yet or about to be released? > Thanks > George > -- >

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-03 Thread George
Doesn't Alvarion and moto have some unlicensed WIMAX products about to be released? Wonder if Patrick Leary is still on this list? George Jack Unger wrote: No... but it's understandable that you might be confused (heck... I might be confused...) but there is so much over-hyped horsesh*t being

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-03 Thread Jack Unger
oup, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX? Wha

Re: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-03 Thread Pete Davis
der by return electronic mail and delete all copies of this communication -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX? What is going on w

RE: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-03 Thread tonylist
alf Of George Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX? What is going on with unlicensed WIMAX? Is there any products released yet or about to be released? Thanks George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: h

[WISPA] Un- licensed WIMAX?

2006-04-03 Thread George
What is going on with unlicensed WIMAX? Is there any products released yet or about to be released? Thanks George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/