Re: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- "big dumb pipe provider" vs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider

2006-01-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
ll apply to WISP's future of using VOIP. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:49 P

Re: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- "big dumb pipe provider"vs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider (html formatted for easier reading)

2006-01-04 Thread Mac Dearman
The way I see it is this: (automatic insertion of my .o2 cents) If Bell South can charge people extra for added services I can too. You pay extra for call waiting, call forwarding, call blocking...etc - - - you pay extra on my internet service to have me give your VoIP packets prioritizati

RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- "big dumb pipe provider"vs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider (html formatted for easier reading)

2006-01-04 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Charles Wu wrote: For some reason, I am getting a feeling that thread may be going beyond "topic debate" to "personal attacks" -- so I will restate my If you are referring to my comment, you are missing the point. I am not, in any way, attacking you personally. I am simp

RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- "big dumb pipe provider"vs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider (html formatted for easier reading)

2006-01-04 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message You seem to be taking this beyond what anyone has stated.  There maybe those that say the things that you claim above, however what yousaid was that "...preference of one's own traffic...is not that muchdifferent than..." and you went on to show a link to a story thatwas NOT E

RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- "big dumb pipe provider" vs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider

2006-01-04 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Charles Wu wrote: If you take this line reasoning a few iterations further, it can easily become a "that @[EMAIL PROTECTED] competitor is riding my network for free to access my customers, so I'm just gonna cut them off" type of discussion Let me show you again what I res

RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- "big dumb pipe provider" vs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider

2006-01-04 Thread Charles Wu
--- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartn