Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Princeton determines cause of an iPad problem

2010-04-19 Thread Jason Mueller
I agree. Apple needs to fix this issue. It is not acceptable for a DHCP client to behave in this manner (and this is not the first DHCP problem with an Apple device). Just to throw in my 2 cents worth with respect to lease times... we have 7,146 concurrent users on our Bloomington wireless netw

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Princeton determines cause of an iPad problem

2010-04-19 Thread Voll, Toivo
Paraphrasing Mr. Badman from earlier this month: "In response to Apple's guidance, we've given out the user name and password to our DHCP servers so IPad users can configure our DHCP settings as they need to fix their connectivity problems." Actually, some of the ideas discussed are neat and pr

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Princeton determines cause of an iPad problem

2010-04-19 Thread Randall C Grimshaw
>> Even with multiple smaller subnets, you can prevent IP address hogging as >> long as >> the DHCP server provides a mechanism to remove client leases from the other >> pool >> at the point it hands out a lease to the same device in the new one. These two options are available in the ISC dhcp s

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Princeton determines cause of an iPad problem

2010-04-19 Thread Ryan Holland
We are using /24s in our vlan pools and have 15 minute lease times. This is due to the number of transient devices (e.g., iphones and ipods) that hop online for barely a minute and then go back to sleep and disassociate. We had issues where these would exhaust our dhcp pools, even with these sho

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Princeton determines cause of an iPad problem

2010-04-19 Thread Johnson, Neil M
What size subnets are you using for wireless ? In order to use our public /21's efficiently we have our lease time set to 10 MINUTES. -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer Information Technology Services The University of Iowa Work: 319 384-0938 Mobile: 319 540-2081 Fax: 319 355-2618 E-mail: n

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Princeton determines cause of an iPad problem

2010-04-19 Thread Caroline Owens
Admittedly, that sounds pretty cool Do you have a particular type of DHCP in mind that support that?  I don't run the dhcp server, but if there was a way to do what you're suggesting, I would present that solution to the person that does On 4/19/2010 1:15 PM, Jeffrey Sessler wrote:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Princeton determines cause of an iPad problem

2010-04-19 Thread Jeffrey Sessler
Even with multiple smaller subnets, you can prevent IP address hogging as long as the DHCP server provides a mechanism to remove client leases from the other pool at the point it hands out a lease to the same device in the new one. Jeff >>> Caroline Owens 4/19/2010 9:45 AM >>> They could cr

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Princeton determines cause of an iPad problem

2010-04-19 Thread Caroline Owens
They could create longer lease times and not have an issue if they have only one flat wireless subnet.  But if they have several smaller subnets, these longer leases could really add up if a device acquires an IP address from each subnet within a small window of time.  You wouldn't want a dev

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Princeton determines cause of an iPad problem

2010-04-19 Thread Gogan, James P
There was an interesting study done at Ga Tech about 3 years ago (http://conferences.sigcomm.org/imc/2007/papers/imc17.pdf) on DHCP lease time optimization -- don't know if anyone has done anything more with this research or similar studies elsewhere, but would be interesting to know if there wa

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Princeton determines cause of an iPad problem

2010-04-19 Thread Jeffrey Sessler
It would seem that Princeton could temporarily (or permanently) avoid the problem, and thus all the media hype and blocking of the iPads, by simply increasing their DHCP lease time from their stated 1-3 hour time to something more reasonable. Unless your base of devices include a large number of