RE: DAS; are your happy with the DAS installation?

2010-11-18 Thread Osborne, Bruce W
What are you talking about? Many different things use the TLA (tree letter acronym) DAS. Data Analysis System Dynamic Animation Systems Direct Attached Storage DAS Keyboard Denver Astronomical Society?? Please choose one :) From: Nicholas Urrea [mailto:urr...@uchastings.edu] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS; are your happy with the DAS installation?

2010-11-18 Thread Ingen Schenau, Jeroen van (ICTS)
On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 07:14 -0500, Osborne, Bruce W wrote: What are you talking about? Many different things use the TLA (tree letter acronym) DAS. Data Analysis System Dynamic Animation Systems Direct Attached Storage DAS Keyboard Denver Astronomical Society?? Since this is

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS; are your happy with the DAS installation?

2010-11-18 Thread Mike King
I'm sure he's talking about Distributed Antenna System for Cell phones. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Osborne, Bruce W bosbo...@liberty.edu wrote: What are you talking about? Many different things use the TLA (tree letter acronym) DAS. Data Analysis System Dynamic Animation Systems

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS; are your happy with the DAS installation?

2010-11-18 Thread newtnoise
I am pretty sure he is referring to Distributed Anytenna System, given the carrier reference. To answer the question, we are in the process of doing the same, and I am curious as to what those institutions with completed installs feel about the results. Greg Sent from my Verizon Wireless

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS; are your happy with the DAS installation?

2010-11-18 Thread Lee H Badman
Julian- What generation of Wi-Fi do you use with your DAS (11a/g/n)? Do you find that perceived and or actual measured network performance changes with the DAS versus stock antennas? -Lee Badman Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Adjunct Instructor,

RE: DAS; are your happy with the DAS installation?

2010-11-18 Thread McNealy, Justin S
We have a DAS installation that runs Wi-Fi and cellular. This was designed and installed when the building was being built. The Wi-Fi signal is consistent throughout the entire building and carries all 3 (.11g/b) everywhere. It's been running for 2+ years without any issues. The only notable

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS; are your happy with the DAS installation?

2010-11-18 Thread Julian Y. Koh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 8:24 AM -0500 11/18/10, Lee H Badman wrote: What generation of Wi-Fi do you use with your DAS (11a/g/n)? Our DAS isn't used for Wi-Fi, only cellular telephone. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 9.9.1.287

Pre shared keys

2010-11-18 Thread Hanson, Mike
Hello, For those of you using WPA2 personal encryption on your wireless network, how do you provide the encryption key to your end users? And how often do you change the key? Thank you for your input. Mike Hanson Network Security Manager The College of St. Scholastica Duluth, MN 55811

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread Julian Y. Koh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 1:30 PM -0600 11/18/10, Luis Fernando Valverde wrote: Can somebody tell me which is the best and cheaper solution (something so easy as turn a switch on/off)? The best solution that is always presented here is that this is a classroom control

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS; are your happy with the DAS installation?

2010-11-18 Thread Urrea, Nick
Sorry about getting back to the topic so late. My question is really about if anybody has carriers paying for their Distributed Antenna Systems on campus. We have had a cell tower operator approach us about setting up DAS on our campus. I would like to extend the question to include carriers

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread Parker, Ron
Yes, if you look at the archives for this list on the EDUCAUSE web site, you'll see that this has come up before. It also comes up on the CIO list and probably others that are archived there. There doesn't seem to be a technology solution for this that would work in a typical academic

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread Rick Brown
Julian is exactly right. If you were to attempt to block/jam wireless in a classroom, how do you contain that jamming to the classroom so that it does not interfere with wireless outside the classroom? Attempting to correct behavior with technology typically

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread Lee H Badman
You may have a hard time locating a solution that sits well with the FCC and other regulatory agencies, even if you can find something that promises to meet the goal. -Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv

RE: WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread Russ Leathe
We can push out different SSID's with ACL's that limit what an authenticated user can access. However, our AP heatmap shows leakage from AP's above and below the floors where the classroom are. So, in a nutshell, it wasn't worth it (blocking that is). Especially true once you incorporate

WPA2 Key Sharing

2010-11-18 Thread Hanson, Mike
Hello, For those of you using WPA2 personal encryption on your wireless network, how do you provide the encryption key to your end users? And how often do you change the key? Thank you for your input. Mike Hanson Network Security Manager The College of St. Scholastica Duluth, MN 55811

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread Methven, Peter J
If you have some lead laying around, you could line the rooms and turn the APs off during lecture times... But as other respondents have said it's not really a technology issue, you design your WIFI for full coverage for a reason. Students use laptops to take notes like we all used to use

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread Greg Schaffer
They also use cloud document management such as Google docs and would need the connectivity if storing notes out there. Instructors need to manage the classroom, not take tools away, IMO. Greg On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Methven, Peter J p.j.meth...@hw.ac.ukwrote: If you have some lead

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread Luis Fernando Valverde
I understand your points of view and I agree with some of your comments. However, we use our classrooms for multiple academic activities (MBA programs, seminar and in-company events), and we need to find a simple device to block the signal in a 10-20 meters radius / classroom. So, the adjacent

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread Nick Kartsioukas
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:52:58 +, Methven, Peter J p.j.meth...@hw.ac.uk said: If you have some lead laying around, you could line the rooms and turn the APs off during lecture times... But as other respondents have said it's not really a technology issue, you design your WIFI for full

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread Voll, Toivo
You may want to check with your public safety folks before you go Faraday cage your rooms. They may have something to say about blocking RF in a classroom. Cell phones not working is a life safety concern, and first responder radio systems not working even more so. -Toivo -Original

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread Lee H Badman
I didn't say this... use a dummy AP at higher power with same SSID in the room. I don't know who said that. - The Lone Stranger From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Luis Fernando

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread kconnell
The dummy AP is a simple and interesting ideaI wonder how many users would complain about not having internet access, or any access...depending on how the ap is configured. Ken Connell Intermediate Network Engineer Computer Communication Services Ryerson University 350 Victoria St RM

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread Hanset, Philippe C
And do you plan to block air-cards on cellular as well with that jammer? Philippe Univ. of TN On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Luis Fernando Valverde wrote: I understand your points of view and I agree with some of your comments. However, we use our classrooms for multiple academic activities (MBA

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi blockers in classrooms

2010-11-18 Thread Hector J Rios
Hey, the Coachcomm system I mentioned is pretty effective at killing WiFi! :) Hector Rios Louisiana State University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.