RE: wireless printers in dorms

2012-10-31 Thread Osborne, Bruce W
Banning 2.4 GHz would ban a large portion of the consumer PCs and mobile devices and all current game consoles. I know that would not work here. We initially only offered IPTV on 5GHz n and had to expand the offering to 2.4GHz due to complaints from students. Excluding game consoles would also

RE: wireless printers in dorms

2012-10-31 Thread Lee H Badman
To me, this whole mess has a lot of contributing factors in the aggregate. Lazy/dated/stuck-in-time client device makers, policy that is either lacking, not enforced, or impossible to practically enforce, merchants (like campus bookstores)not engaged or sympathetic to campus IT when it comes to

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless printers in dorms

2012-10-31 Thread Charles Rumford
Is anyone running a separate SSID just for these types of devices that don't do 802.1X (printers, xbox, wii, nook, etc.)? The previous institution that I was at had one of these that allowed students to connect these devices after registering the MAC address of the device. And Penn is currently

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless printers in dorms

2012-10-31 Thread Barber, Matt
Hi Charles, Yes, we are running a separate SSID for that kind of stuff. We have a web form where students register MAC addresses. We subscribe to the "dorm should be just like home" theory that Lee described. We do our best to support whatever gaming and entertainment devices that show up. We

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless printers in dorms

2012-10-31 Thread Hall, Rand
This is our experience. Students are printing via USB and don't realize that wireless is enabled. Many students don't pay attention to our many communication efforts. To win the war for those who do, we dedicate bodies to hunt them down, do one-on-one education, offer to find/read the docs and turn

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless printers in dorms

2012-10-31 Thread Chuck Anderson
For those who treat their dorms "just like home", do you also segregate traffic from each room and backhaul the traffic just like ISPs do for each home, rather than treating the entire dorm as one big happy subnet? Then you wouldn't have the problem of "thousands of devices" in the subnet. Each r