Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Mark Duling
The 'onscreen passcode' option is a 4 digit number that pops up on the screen and changes with each connection attempt. So if you can see the screen you can stream to it, but there is no password to change. That feature was added in an update last year I think. We use it and it works great. I a

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Jason Heffner
From what we have seen so far the “onscreen code” will be enough security in most of our rooms, even our general classrooms. Once a professor is connected no one else will be able to connect, including students, until they disconnect. Some professors, particularly those participating in the flip

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Tim Cappalli
Yes, AirGroup restricts which services the user can see. We will most likely be disabling Bluetooth discovery (if it is even possible). This is (yet again) another feature for small environments. Tim Cappalli | CWNA / ACCP / ACMP / CCNA Mobility Engineer  |  Brandeis University cappa...@brandeis

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Jason Watts
Fair point. If your authentication functions like a fall-through list then I suppose you can assign broader access as you move higher up the list. If your roles don't have access models that work that way then I suppose it's a non-starter unless you have a way of building a per-user ACL for

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Ian McDonald
That would assume you have a clean mapping between who's a student and who is staff. In practice, we find our students are relatively often employees, and our employees, relatively often students... Thanks -- ian Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and misspelling. -Original Mess

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Jason Watts
Tim, That seems fairly clean based on the fact that the user authentication is done at the AP and isn't needed past that. Does the way Airgroup works make this automatically apply to people locating the ATV via Bluetooth, as in, does the Airgroup policy or control automatically filter all tr

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Tim Cappalli
We're doing this with AirGroup. Tim Cappalli | CWNA / ACCP / ACMP / CCNA Mobility Engineer  |  Brandeis University cappa...@brandeis.edu | (617) 701-7149 @tcappy0707 | linkedin.com/in/timcappalli/ -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:W

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV issue we are seeing

2014-03-18 Thread Dorshimer, Michael
We too have run into this problem. Though I do not think ours matches the Bonjour Sleep Proxy issue because we only see the alarm for 'IP Theft or IP Reuse' of its own IP, not another device. Our ARP reports only show advertisements of its own IP. The Apple TVs can only connect wirelessly for a

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Dan Brisson
While I agree that Radius authentication would be a nice option, getting Apple to add an enterprise feature like that is probably pushing it for a "consumer" device. I'm just happy they added in Enterprise 802.1x for wireless. :) -dan Dan Brisson Network Engineer University of Vermont On

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Jason Watts
I don't know if it's the feature Tony mentions but there is a PIN feature that is essentially like an OTP that can be used as a barrier to entry. When Airplay is started the ATV displays the PIN on screen and it must be entered at the device before connecting. I believe it changes each time.

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Glassman, Stephen
Yes, we just went away from a hard coded password and turned the on screen password feature on-great for all because it randomly generates one each time a user tries to airplay. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Huels, Christopher
The ATV can also be configured to have an on screen password that changes periodically that works great as well. Chris Huels - Manager, Student Technology Services Washington University in St. Louis - Information Services and Technology 6601 Shepley Dr. - Campus Box 1245 - St. Louis, MO 63105 -

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Tim Cappalli
And what happens when the students figure it out? Do you have to manually touch each AppleTV to change it? Tim Cappalli | CWNA / ACCP / ACMP / CCNA Mobility Engineer | Brandeis University cappa...@brandeis.edu | (617) 701-7149 <+16177017149> @tcappy0707 | lin

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Tony Juarez
The ATV can be configured with a password to access Airplay, which works great. Tony Juarez, CCNP Wireless Network Engineer II IT Services 773-702-5592 (Office) From: , Stephen Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:20 AM To: "WI

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Glassman, Stephen
oh as in they are connected while in the room then they leave and stay connected and the teacher cannot connect. I guess we'll have to deal with it on a case by case basis. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of T

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Tim Cappalli
What if the student gets connected before the faculty member? Tim Cappalli | CWNA / ACCP / ACMP / CCNA Mobility Engineer | Brandeis University cappa...@brandeis.edu | (617) 701-7149 <+16177017149> @tcappy0707 | linkedin.com/in/timcappalli/

RE: Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Lee H Badman
Working swimmingly at Syracuse in early tests. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Legge, Jeffry Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:38 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Glassman, Stephen
Oh for us it's greatwe've wanted this functionality for a long time. If the ATV is already in use the user cannot kick currently connected user off. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Tim Cappalli Sent: Tue

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Tim Cappalli
It doesn't really solve anything for us. We still need network access controls for the devices. You don't wait a student pairing to a classroom ATV in the middle of class. Tim Cappalli | CWNA / ACCP / ACMP / CCNA Mobility Engineer | Brandeis University cappa...@brandeis.edu | (617) 701-7149

RE: Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Glassman, Stephen
Yes, we've tried it and it works great! From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Legge, Jeffry Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:38 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV ove

Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

2014-03-18 Thread Legge, Jeffry
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4448 Adds support to allow an AirPlay device to discover Apple TV over Bluetooth in environments where multicast or Bonjour traffic is blocked on the network or the AirPlay device is on a different subnet. Requires iOS 7.1 or later on iPhone 4s or later, iPad (3rd

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11ac migration question

2014-03-18 Thread McClintic, Thomas
We don't use Aruba here, but I believe they use RPSMA while Cisco uses RPTNC. That articulating mount comes with the antenna we used. I found the mount in the wireless journal. http://wirelessjournal.tessco.com/app.asp?RelId=5.5.11.9 page 18. Since the part number isn't working I would assume t

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] TerraWave Aruba Indoor AP Wireless LAN Site Survey Kit

2014-03-18 Thread Ron Walczak
Kitri That "kit" is nothing more than a Pelican case with handful of Aruba antennae. It provides you NOTHING to do surveys. there are no APs There is no Software (Ekahau or Airmagnet) Ron WalczakPMP, RCDD, CWNA/CWSP Walczak Technology Consultants, Inc (724) 865-2740 *"Resentment is like dri