RE: Wireless in Dorms

2014-10-21 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
2. Wireless dorms no not need a wired LAN, so the SSID can be campus-wide. That is what we do, but with an open mac auth network that is also used for onboarding to the 802.1X secure network. We do not support wireless printing. You would need DHCP reservations to insure the printer would always

RE: Wireless in Dorms

2014-10-21 Thread Thomas Carter
But how does that help avoid the initial problem discussed concerning devices (especially HP printers) causing interference by broadcasting wireless networks? These printers broadcast these networks straight out of the box and most students don’t even realize it. Thomas Carter Network and Opera

WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Williams, Matthew
I've just started here at Kent State and I'm facing an uphill battle regarding updating our WLAN design. All APs are deployed in the hallways and we're rolling out 802.11ac. We'd like to move the APs into the rooms, but the mere suggestion has been met with resistance. I was just wondering if

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Julian Y Koh
On Tue Oct 21 2014 12:47:02 CDT, "Williams, Matthew" wrote: > > I’ve just started here at Kent State and I’m facing an uphill battle > regarding updating our WLAN design. All APs are deployed in the hallways and > we’re rolling out 802.11ac. We’d like to move the APs into the rooms, but > th

RE: Wireless in Dorms

2014-10-21 Thread McNett, Loren
FYI: on top of all this, we’ve found that disabling wireless on certain printers (looking at you HP!) only turns off the wireless LED, signal is still sent out. We’ve had to tear the printers apart to physically remove the card to stop the interference. As Thomas Carter pointed out below, no

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Philippe Hanset
From my previous experience at University of Tennessee, Knoxville where I redesigned the dorm Wi-Fi (2012) before leaving to do eduroam-US: (designed with 5GHz in mind and 2.4 as complement) pros for moving into room: 1-Most rooms are mini faraday cages so you can easily add more APs with less i

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread McClintic, Thomas
I suggest doing an ac site survey on a sample building with the radios in their existing locations. Then, do a survey in the same building with your proposed locations. Make sure your data shows how far the ac data rates propagate. Doing the survey on a UNI-1 channel is best imo. I did someth

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Kevin McCormick
We installed in the hallways due to cost, access for maintenance, and concern of vandalism in room. Coverage from hallway using our design was excellent. We designed the layout in Cisco Prime. Testing after install showed the wireless working very well in the rooms, even on 5 Ghz. Wireless just

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Robert Owens
One gotcha in hall designs is what your walls are made out of. Simple sheetrock fine. Concrete blocks not as fine. Lathe and plaster with metal mesh, Faraday cage. We have a music department with some sort of sound deading material that completely kills RF. -Original Message- From: The

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Heath Barnhart
We took the same approach as Philippe. I've never had an issue with vandalism so that wasn't a concern. I also had site surveys showing the difference in coverage. Putting them in the room also helps with making clear overlaps zones. Prior to the redesign we were in the hall and it just didn't w

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Jason Becker
We made the move from hallways to bedroom as well with the 702W's that Cisco came out with. Being able to use the existing cable drop in bedrooms saved a lot of money and installation time. With the 702W having the wired ports still gives the students that option as well. We did leave a few 3

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Thomas Carter
We're looking at revamping our "down the hall" model as well as we look to address 802.11ac (and replacing old Juniper wireless now that they're getting out of the wireless market). The biggest thing is the ability to pack APs more densely without signal interference than "down the hall". We hav

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Anthony, Mark G
We also design the same for the dorms (hallways) and for the same reasons. However, it has been a problem on some of the newer dorms where the bed rooms are located on the outer walls while all the kitchen/baths sit between the user and ap. My question is has anyone been putting in the Aruba AP2

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Dorms

2014-10-21 Thread trent . hurt
I have seen most hp printers coming with 2 modes of wifi now. You have to disable the wireless like normal. That makes the adhoc go away. You also have to disable wifi direct option as well. They are 2 separate options within the printers. One shows up as adhoc and the wifi direct appears a

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Williams, Matthew
Thanks for the tips, everyone! I appreciate the insights. Respectfully, Matthew Williams Kent State University Network & Telecommunications Services Office: (330) 672-7246 Mobile: (330) 469-0445 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Entwistle, Bruce
Jason, we have been considering the same approach. How did the number of previously installed hallway APs compare to the number of installed bedroom APs. Thanks Bruce Entwistle Network Manager -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIR

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Eric Brewer
Anthony, we're using Aruba AP225's, too. To avoid the "overload" problem in our test buildings, we put them in every 3rd room instead of every other room or every room. Students are reporting it's working great and it was significantly cheaper. As others have noted though, it all depends on your

RE: Wireless in Dorms

2014-10-21 Thread John Kaftan
I have used students in the past extensively to help with wireless management. After working with a student for a month or so they are typically capable of setting up Aps, troubleshooting and chasing down rogues, doing wireless testing and even surveys etc. You can use students to manage your F

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread William Nankervis
We opted for AP-205s in our residence halls. They are cheaper than AP-225's but still offer 802.11ac. They are placed in every other room and I just let ARM turn down the power on its own. We have gone from having many complaints in the residence halls to very few, and most of those are issues w

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Jason Becker
Bruce, our previous install was 10 years old and signal was not reaching most places, so it would be hard to compare the two. Jason Becker Network Systems Engineer, Network Planning and Services Tel:(314)935-5006 On 10/21/14, 3:02 PM, Entwistle, Bruce wrote: Jason, we have been considering th

RE: Wireless in Dorms

2014-10-21 Thread Stewart, Joe
I feel everyone’s pain, in fact I spent most of last week working with my colleague on setting up SNMP credentials and ip access lists to use the switch port trace feature in Cisco Prime Infrastructure (requires lifecycle license). This feature uses your enterprise access points that picked up

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips?

2014-10-21 Thread Alan Klein
Eddie Forero did a nice little visual of halfway vs. in room AP's using Ekahau, pretty compelling to visualize. https://vimeo.com/109039703 > On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Jason Becker wrote: > > Bruce, our previous install was 10 years old and signal was not reaching most > places, so it wo