RE: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected?

2020-08-17 Thread Turner, Ryan H
Seconded… So many other things could be said, but many of them are not very nice. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Johnston, Ryan Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 1:18 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected?

2020-08-17 Thread Philippe Hanset
I forgot to finish one line -I want eduroam for privileged access and other guests get free open-access with less resources. I will just use WPA3 Wi-Fi protected access for Open-Access, no hassle, encryption, no complicated roaming needed. > On Aug 17, 2020, at 1:19 PM, Philippe Hanset >

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected?

2020-08-17 Thread Philippe Hanset
Why not indeed ? If I go back to my WLAN manager hat I would think: -Not everyone has an account with a commercial provider (and even if I do, my kids do not) -I would like to give a different style of access to the EDU community in General (I do not want thousands of lines of domains in my

RE: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected?

2020-08-17 Thread Johnston, Ryan
Jeff, For some of us the Starbucks equivalency statement doesn’t fit. I’m specifically in a situation where I do not want to give anyone and everyone easy access to our network. Half of our campus is situated in downtown Chicago amongst all the high-rises and tourist locations. I do not

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected?

2020-08-17 Thread Tim Cappalli
I don’t see eduroam dissolving. Each vendor’s implementation of OpenRoaming (assuming they integrate) is going to vary and may have cost impact. AFAIK, one large wireless vendor requires a very expensive subscription / platform in order to interconnect. If the eduroam US TLRS can handle all of

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected?

2020-08-17 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
I’m not trying to get out of a business, but Internet2 could eventually get out of the radius/eduroam business. Unless I’m mistaken, at the point an institution federates directly with openroaming, the need for eduroam diminishes. Obviously it’s going to take time, but if there is a push to

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected?

2020-08-17 Thread Tim Cappalli
What business are you trying to get out of specifically? OpenRoaming is a way for federations of organizations and/or individual organizations to interconnect. Eduroam would start to mean “less” to end users, as they wouldn’t see an “eduroam” ESSID anymore, but there is still value in a trust

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected?

2020-08-17 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
Why not the other way around, and standardize on OpenRoaming, and have everything else become a member of it? Do we still need eduroam at that point? Do we care if the client device is using their ATT, Spectrum, or college credentials? I’m reminded that in EDU we often fix problems nobody