RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Ben Johansen
Well security is only as good as the individuals handling it. Who knows where they are going to stick that finger ;-) Since we tied the cards with the barcode to their time clock, they are very motivated on keeping the card secure :-) I was looking more for getting quick an easy ID info often, o

Re: Witango-Talk: HTML-compatible e-mail client sniffer

2002-07-11 Thread Scott Cadillac
Sterile? But I've got 4 kids :-) D'oh! - Original Message - From: "Jon Grieve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 3:27 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: HTML-compatible e-mail client sniffer > Chuck, > > I'm

RE: Witango-Talk: HTML-compatible e-mail client sniffer

2002-07-11 Thread Jon Grieve
Chuck, I'm not sure you can determine what anyone would have, expect perhaps if you were in some 'sterile' intranet-type environment (such as Scott has the luxury of ;). On the Exchange front, my understanding of the 'dual format' thing is to do with Rich Text e-mail. I don't know the exact wor

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Anthony M. Humphreys
A mathematician (not a forensics expert), Tsutomu Matsumoto, was able to "fool" fingerprint readers with aspic (aka Jelly, unflavoured Jell-o) He took a fingerprint off something the target touched, took a picture of it, made a mould from the photo, and then poured the jelly in to the mould and

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Thomas Ferguson
Keytronics makes both the keyboard and fingerprint scanner and comes with the software. Prices are between $80 and $200. www.keytronics.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Henning Sittler Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 5:17 PM To: Multipl

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Ben Johansen
We looked into them, but the biggest hurdle was the human acceptance factor. They could stomach a bar-coded badge, but to collect something that personal was met with tremendous resistance. I have to agree, I am a little Leary of this info link to my person Just my 2cents Ben Johansen - http://w

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Henning Sittler
If this is easy to setup, then I'm impressed! Henning Sittler www.inscriber.com -Original Message- From: Thomas Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 5:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk Subject: RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more! If you're g

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Thomas Ferguson
If you're going to do that, you could use the fingerprint readers they have. We did a project like that for one company in our area about 3 years ago. They had separate little thumbprint readers, and even keyboards with the thumbprint readers. They called the technology Biometrics. As I recall t

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Ben Johansen
The barcode readers are keyboard wedge readers In layman's terms the plug in between the keyboard and the computer Then I created a unique id and printed the barcode on each badge The end user has no idea what the id is. I then used single input form page with and most barcode reader can be set

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Henning Sittler
Hey, sounds like a good idea! Assuming this wasa web application, how do you get the barcodes to turn into login info in the browser? Henning Sittler www.inscriber.com -Original Message- From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 4:38 PM To: Multiple

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Ben Johansen
In one setting, we used 99$ barcode readers on all workstations, this solved several issues, like ID and Inventory control. We created id cards with barcodes on them and tied it to there time sheet ;) Didn't take them long to start using the barcode without thinking about it. Then we were able to

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Henning Sittler
Arg! If they're that uncompromising with you on a login system, one wonders why they don't simply travel into an alternate dimension where Strak Trek is a reality, and get a computer system that just happens to know who you are and where you are physically located, and only requires security code

RE: RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Campbell, Steve V.
Thank you all for ALL of the GREAT suggestions! They will be beneficial! Steve -Original Message- From: Mark Bushaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk Subject: RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more! I think you are l

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Mark Bushaw
I think you are left with a User Selection list. Have a dropdown that identifies all the Doctors in the system and they select who they are. Put this on every page so if they leave the computer and a new user comes in they can select their identity without going to a home page. This is going

Re: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Scott Cadillac
Hi Steve, You certainly have a challenging project by the sounds of it. If your users want to keep it simple and they are just using the NT/2000 logon to control what they have access to (without poping up a HTML logon) - then MSIE can help you, without having to use cookies. MSIE has a feature

Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Robert S. Sfeir
On 7/11/02 3:05 PM, "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know as it stands now..I can't ask them for anything! No login, > fill in the blank or anything. Really puts a cramp in things. Well 2 things on that too: 1- Keyfobs are the only way to go 2- I think your bosses are being

Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Robert S. Sfeir
Ok I don't know what your budget is, but I think you have a couple of options, both of while will require some work on your end, but both of which will prove to be pretty industrial strength: If you think you can 'deposit' a cookie on the machine, I'm assuming the doctors use the same machine eve

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Campbell, Steve V.
You know as it stands now..I can't ask them for anything! No login, fill in the blank or anything. Really puts a cramp in things. Steve -Original Message- From: Web Dude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk Subjec

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Campbell, Steve V.
Thanks Robert & Mike We secure right now on the front end with NTFS. I am not allowed to present a dialogue or popup box that would require a WiTango login of any means. So I am currently tracking machine name and IP address. That's it. SO I thought maybe if I could deposit a cookie on the browse

Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Web Dude
I have some sites that require their email address as their login ID or login name along with a password. This would kill several egg-laying vertebrates with one mass of stony material. (or solid mineral deposit). >Hey Steve, > >I've run into similar situations, I didn't see the original email

Witango-Talk: HTML-compatible e-mail client sniffer

2002-07-11 Thread Chuck Lockwood
How do you determine if a client can except HTML email prior to sending it? If going through an Exchange server, can you pass it both versions and will Exchange figure it out? I'd like to know of any and all solutions using Witango mail. Thanks, Chuck Lockwood ~

Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Robert S. Sfeir
Yeah that's what I was thinking, but I *think* the problem is that they may not use the same PC every time, so they'd have to re enter every time, and the other problem would be if the PCs are shared, then another doctor will walk in and use a colleague's username and password. This is why I aske

RE: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Todd Trann
If your users hate logging in, you have a few options: - have them log in once, and then have that login set into a cookie that expires on the 12th of never, so that they don't have to login again when they come back to your app - have the use IE, and turn on the "remember my passwords" fu

Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Robert S. Sfeir
Hey Steve, I've run into similar situations, I didn't see the original email, and I think people tent to freak out a bit too fast. Can you tell me a little bit more about what it is that you need from the doctors to track them, what is available to them to log in to your system, do they always u

Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Mike Tyranski
Steve, Why don't you allow them to save thier login/password the first time they come to the site so the next time they come back they don't have to enter it again. Mike "Campbell, Steve V." wrote: > This is twice in three weeks my intentions have been questioned. Why in > the world would I a

Re: Witango-Talk: Help! I am in an Array sorting/summing hell

2002-07-11 Thread Robert S. Sfeir
OOPS that was not supposed to say OEM 3 times, change that for each select obviously. R On 7/11/02 1:51 PM, "Robert S. Sfeir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally I would do multiple searches and in each search I would also > bring back the data pre calculated for example: (If your DB suppor

RE: RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Campbell, Steve V.
This is twice in three weeks my intentions have been questioned. Why in the world would I ask such a question on a list that I have been part of for more then two years and not have good intents? I need to track doctors because they are always too damn lazy to use user/pass credentials. I, am

Re: Witango-Talk: Help! I am in an Array sorting/summing hell

2002-07-11 Thread Robert S. Sfeir
Personally I would do multiple searches and in each search I would also bring back the data pre calculated for example: (If your DB supports it, like Oracle, I would use a begin end block and put all the selects in one direct DBMS and return all the data in one shot) begin; select col1, col2, co

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Ben Johansen
I hope this ability never becomes mainstream. This would effective stop email due to so much spam. I am sure you intentions are honorable, but for every honorable intention on the web there are 50 dishonorable waiting to take what they can. Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com Authorized Wita

RE: Witango-Talk: Cookies for a Beginner

2002-07-11 Thread Troy Sosamon
Tracking every option they select is easy. Make a logging table that has the userreference, date, time, logon name, option1, and option2. Do an insert at the top of your taf that inserts a record into the table and your option1 & option2 will be the arguements that you are calling the taf with.

Re: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread John McGowan
WHAT?!?!?! If I knew of a way, I certainly wouldn't tell you. /John - Original Message - From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more! O

Re: Witango-Talk: Help! I am in an Array sorting/summing hell

2002-07-11 Thread Mark Bushaw
I think your solution depends on your resources. If you have a fast database and a fast connection to it, then you can get away with one search and manipulate the resultset with WiTango. If your database is slow with a fast connection, many small searches will keep the customer wait time down

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: One more!

2002-07-11 Thread Campbell, Steve V.
One more question. What can you capture without the user knowing it's being captured. I know you can do normal stuff like, where they came from, how long and that type of data, but, is there anyway to capture their email address somehow without them knowing it? Any ideas? Steve

RE: Re: Witango-Talk: Cookies for a Beginner

2002-07-11 Thread Campbell, Steve V.
Hello I am having to track users when they use a collection of search engines that I built. I am collecting their IP address and Computer Name when they hit the site, but, I need to track what and where they go on the site. This all has to do with HIPPA and privacy regs that are now starting to

RE: Witango-Talk: Redirect

2002-07-11 Thread Bill Conlon
Here's my Re-direct taf that I use for drop-go menus. The location redirect URL comes from the argument. I found that the httpHeader assignment needed the 302 code (per W3C) to make this work. > >This is all I've used in the past: ><@ASSIGN local$httpHeader 'Location: http://foo.bar<@CRLF>

Re: Witango-Talk: Help! I am in an Array sorting/summing hell

2002-07-11 Thread Jose Kuhn
The other thought is that I could put this info in a table that gets updated nightly. If the user want to refresh the report then that is their choice. What about this? Jose on 7/11/2002 11:19 AM, Len Wright at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have written several reports that sound similar in sc

Re: Witango-Talk: Help! I am in an Array sorting/summing hell

2002-07-11 Thread Jose Kuhn
Here is how the reports supposed to work. There are nine (I lied) Repair Categories and 3 Repair Tracks (OEM, Broker, Direct). For each of the 27 items I need # of repairs and the total cost. I also want to total the columns and the rows as well as the grand totals. Our customers just want a gene

Re: Witango-Talk: Help! I am in an Array sorting/summing hell

2002-07-11 Thread Len Wright
I have written several reports that sound similar in scope to what you are doing. My strategy is to provide the user with several selection fields to build the query based in the user's input, and then bring back a resultset that matches the selection fields. if your categories and subcategories

Witango-Talk: Help! I am in an Array sorting/summing hell

2002-07-11 Thread Jose Kuhn
Before, I waste a lot of time going down the wrong path I would like to know the most efficient way to handle generating reports from a huge array. Here is the deal. I need to generate a cost report of repair orders that has 7 categories and three sub categories. Is it better for me to do one sea

Re: Witango-Talk: Excel as data source

2002-07-11 Thread Scott Cadillac
Hi John, I would also check the Permissions for Witango to access the file - is the Excel file on the same machine? Or somewhere else on the Network? I've been able to open a ODBC connection to an Excel file from Witango in the past - for building import routines. Reading Excel from Witango is d

Re: Witango-Talk: Excel as data source

2002-07-11 Thread Len Wright
If you are using ms-sql, trying linking the excel file via enterprise manager first, then build a query. From Witango, link to the query. Hope this helps Regards, Len Wright Plus International Corp www.plusinternational.com Direct: 604-415-2384 Fax:604-415-0830 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/10/0

Re: Witango-Talk: Escaping for ' in Mother's

2002-07-11 Thread Dan Stein
It online when you install the development studio also. That is what I use most often. -- Dan Stein Digital Software Solutions 799 Evergreen Circle Telford PA 18969 Land: 215-799-0192 Mobile: 610-256-2843 Fax 413-410-9682 FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dss-db.com > From: "Ric

Re: Witango-Talk: Escaping for ' in Mother's

2002-07-11 Thread Dan Stein
For sure I look at them everyday. But I try to sit and read through all the docs on them at least once a year. Maybe your right I should do even that more often. Would be easier if their was a stronger plot line or alternative endings. -- Dan Stein Digital Software Solutions 799 Evergreen Circle

RE: Witango-Talk: Redirect

2002-07-11 Thread Jon Grieve
This is all I've used in the past: <@ASSIGN local$httpHeader 'Location: http://foo.bar<@CRLF><@CRLF>'> Jon -Original Message- From: John Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 July 2002 2:13 To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk Subject: Witango-Talk: Redirect Hello all, I

Re: Witango-Talk: Escaping for ' in Mother's

2002-07-11 Thread Rick Sanders
Thanks to Daniel Richardy, the docs are online: http://www.witango.net/Downloads/Help/index.html Rick Sanders > "Annual review of the metatags?" > > Personally, I'd suggest looking at the documentation a little more often! > > :) > > /John > > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Stein" <

Re: Witango-Talk: Escaping for ' in Mother's

2002-07-11 Thread John McGowan
"Annual review of the metatags?" Personally, I'd suggest looking at the documentation a little more often! :) /John - Original Message - From: "Dan Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:07 PM Subje

Witango-Talk: Redirect

2002-07-11 Thread John Shaw
Hello all, I need to send incoming URLs to an external non-Witango site. I found this code in the archives, but I'm not sure how to implement it: <@assign httpheader "HTTP/1.0 302 Found<@CRLF>Location: http://www.newpage.com/newpage.tml?<@userreferenceargument><@CRLF><@CRLF>" scope=local> It di