Re: Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread Scott Cadillac
Oh, and Thank You - for the compliment about my article :-) - Original Message - From: "Web Dude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: What to call it > Thanks Scott > > E

Re: Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread Scott Cadillac
Hey Dude, Life is change. I have to confess, one of the reasons I haven't been as attentive to the List lately (and why I missed that New York Trade Show) is because I'm buried deep in a new project with our company and a Major International Accounting Firm. Although the web-development portion o

Re: Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread Chris Millet
When talking to the uninitiated I usually describe what I am using long before I state its name. I use terms such as rapid application development environment, XML, J2EE-compliant (soon), develop/deploy on any platform, etc, etc. I also state that it is one of the many solutions out there with func

Re: Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread Web Dude
Thanks Scott Excellent page. I didn't realize I was opening up Pandora's box with this thread. I can see everyone's point fairly clearly. But the brunt of the situation with myself and my company is the fact that... yes we have lost jobs over the type of development used. And yes, I had a majo

Re: Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread Roland Dumas
Due to its domination of the marketplace, I usually tell people that Tango (Witango) is like ColdFusion only better, and it'll save them money because development time is cut drastically. I've never had anyone balk at that. Just my $.02 Better-faster-cheaper is always a hard argument to be

RE: RE: Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread Wilcox, Jamileh
Actually, we've had problems with this phenomenon here. A new project manager who's never heard of the product and wants to switch to ColdFusion or ASP.net because of Witango's "declining market share", unstable ownership history, "lack of resources", etc., but who does have the ear of management,

Witango-Talk: tango install non fuctional

2003-01-10 Thread Simon Boddy
Hi List, Installed T2k on Win 2000 box already running Witango. Changed app mappings. No life from T2k, got "Client Error: an unusual exception occurred while processing the request" (What a sense of humour!) Uninstalled T2k, Uninstalled Witango. Attempted to reinstall T2k SP1. Got error: "Tan

RE: Witango-Talk: pdf download

2003-01-10 Thread Wilcox, Jamileh
Hiya Rich. I just went through this myself, except with a delimited file rather than PDF. Check Scott Cadillac's site at http://www.xml-extra.net/webpage.xmlx?node=38 - he's got a great explanation. If you'll look in the mail list archives for Dec 19 2002, there's a couple of emails discussi

RE: Witango-Talk: pdf download

2003-01-10 Thread Alexander Zatko
You will need to fool the browser into believing that the document being sent to it (PDF in your case) is of a mime type which it can't handle. I don't think you can do it (easily) if the PDF is served directly from the disk, but if you are serving it from a result page of your Witango app file, it

Re: Witango-Talk: pdf download

2003-01-10 Thread Beverly Voth
Hello, rich Jasinski! On 1/10/2003 11:27 AM -0500, you wrote in whole or part: >I need to put a link on a tango page that will give the user the ability to >download a pdf file and not open it in the browser. Any ideas? Compress it in an archive first? You can't rely on the users having browser

RE: Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread Steve Smith
Two excellent points! I remember getting into a discussion with a co-worker about 'technology'. He was concerned about what was then the Tango product and it's lack of exposure. My stand was that most clients don't care what the technology is that delivers their solutions but they have been traine

Witango-Talk: pdf download

2003-01-10 Thread rich Jasinski
I need to put a link on a tango page that will give the user the ability to download a pdf file and not open it in the browser. Any ideas? rich TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread Jose Kuhn
Amen Tom!! jose on 1/10/03 10:34 AM, Tom Ferguson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I get these kind of questions from clients also... mostly from clients who > what me to understand how knowledgeable they are. Usually all they know are > a few buzzwords. > > I'm always puzzled why they are conc

Re: Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread Scott Cadillac
Hey Dude, I might be going out on a limb, but maybe this is what you were looking for: http://xml-extra.net/webpage.xmlx?node=84 This was of my own doing - but With has not objected to it's existence. I've used the "XML" tactic ever since T2K came out and has helped more than hindered me. It's o

RE: Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread Tom Ferguson
I get these kind of questions from clients also... mostly from clients who what me to understand how knowledgeable they are. Usually all they know are a few buzzwords. I'm always puzzled why they are concerned about which tools I use, as long as I accomplish their goals, especially when I'm host

Witango-Talk: OT? witango business success (was: What to call it)

2003-01-10 Thread Alexander Zatko
This is quite a can of worms you guys just opened. I think the issue for everybody boils down to: what long-term chances does Witango has in the marketplace. If we look at Apple as an example of a company with great products and a stagnant (declining) market share, the Witango team should ready the

Re: Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread Web Dude
Until Witango can get an appreciable market share, I will use "buzzwords" as best I can to land the client. Unfortunately, I get too many blank stares when I even mention the product. I have clients that I have had for 8 years that now know exactly what Witango is and does only because I educat

Re: Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread Dan Stein
I agree with John but I say to customers I use and XML generating engine call WiTango which writes its code in XML. This seems to give them a buzzword they understand as well as a new word they have trouble saying to chew on latter. Dan -- Dan Stein Digital Software Solutions 799 Evergreen Circle

Re: Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread John McGowan
Dude, I believe the term they're all throwing around is "XML Execution Engine" Personally I think the term sucks. "ASCII Execution Engine" would be just as descriptive. These types of deceptive tactics will only slow the growth and popularity of Witango. People need to know what we're usi

Witango-Talk: What to call it

2003-01-10 Thread Web Dude
I saw this somewhere on the list before but can't seem to find it now. I have a perspective client I have been trying to land for the last month. It is looking good, but they are asking for a list of development tools that will be used in the project. I am worried that stating I use Witango, wi