Re: [wpkg-users] wpkg for crapware removal?

2012-12-14 Thread heiko . helmle
> So usually for me it takes longer to clean the machines (and still > living with > the risk that manufacturer changed some Windows settings which I don't know > about) than re-installing them from scratch; knowing to have a clean system > then. Using unattended Windows setup and WPKG a mach

Re: [wpkg-users] Architecture being ignored when installing

2012-12-13 Thread heiko . helmle
> > Strangely, if I run wpkg.js in a terminal window with /debug, it tries to > run the proper file (but fails due to the software variable not being set). > But then when I try the service it again goes back to trying to install the > 32 bit version. This sounds like you're running the 32bit

Re: [wpkg-users] Log Files

2012-11-26 Thread heiko . helmle
> > ..., because there is always something missing from the log on the > server, if it is done by a package. > > It is best to do it after WPKG.js is called, which can be accomplished > by a post action in WPKG client or a line in the batch file executing > WPKG.js I've done this inside of W

Re: [wpkg-users] Disable FBWF before installing software

2012-11-14 Thread heiko . helmle
> > > > Wouldn't this cause a reboot loop? The enable and disable package both > > need an immediate reboot... > > One could set an environment variable to avoid this, which gets checked > to prevent the execution of the install commands. > > The reboot loop problem exists with the first solutio

Re: [wpkg-users] Disable FBWF before installing software

2012-11-14 Thread heiko . helmle
> > > > How about disabling FBWF with a package of priority using > execute="always" and enabling it with a package of priority 0 also using > execute="always", so you won't have to implement this in each and every > package? Wouldn't this cause a reboot loop? The enable and disable pac

Re: [wpkg-users] Disable FBWF before installing software

2012-11-13 Thread heiko . helmle
> You can momentarily disable the FBWF to install programs and make > other changes to the system but it requires a reboot. > So : Disable FBWF > Reboot > Install Software > Enable FBWF > Reboot > So I have used WPKG-GP successfully to install some basic software > (Flash Player and what not) aft

Re: [wpkg-users] Big problem with Java Update

2012-10-22 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello Stefan, > > The Java installer is a bit tricky and results in problems from time to > time. > Tricky might be not the right word. It's pretty buggy: It doesn't seem to handle open files. We have this problem too. If we run the update on any machine that happens to have SmartSVN or Jenk

Re: [wpkg-users] User initiated runs of WPKG

2012-10-10 Thread heiko . helmle
> > I've been trying to figure out a way to allow end users to trigger > WPKG to run when it is convenient to them. Ideally we could setup a > shortcut on everyone's Start menu so that they could click "Install > Updates" which would start wpkg.js. The issue I'm having with > implementing this

Re: [wpkg-users] Why VNC and not remote desktop? (was: Advice on remote assistance program to deploy)

2012-10-02 Thread heiko . helmle
> i would like to know why you install another program on windows if you > have RemoteDesktop on windows and an excelente client on linux? > > I've made a special CD for installing XP, and it set's by default the > remote access option. I combine it plus Wake on Lan capabilities and > works great

Re: [wpkg-users] regex in registry paths?

2012-06-01 Thread heiko . helmle
> > What I want to do is to check if the 32-bit version of Java has been > installed on 64-bit Windows 7. > Is there a better way to do this? uninstall only checks for 64 bit apps > (on 64-bit os), or will it check for both? I use these: Java 6u32 32bit Java 6u32 64bit Best Regards Hei

Re: [wpkg-users] remove checks too quickly

2012-04-16 Thread heiko . helmle
> > using the foobar2000 package from the wiki (http://wpkg.org/Foobar2000) > I had a strange problem. After removing the package from the profile, > wpkg.js reported that the package could not be removed. But all the > files were uninstalled corectly when I checked in explorer. It took me a

[wpkg-users] WPKG handling multiple packages

2012-04-04 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello, Does WPKG handle multiple versions of the same package of is this planned. It's a corner case - for example Vmware Infrastructure Client installs different versions all having the same DisplayName. So if you manage 4.1 and 5.0 servers you have two Clients installed with different version

Re: [wpkg-users] Firefox zombie state

2012-04-04 Thread heiko . helmle
> Am 04.04.2012 16:17, schrieb Bruno CHOQUET: > > Falko, > > > > It's not a profil or host problem : i just want to uninstall Firefox 6. > > > > Installing the latest version of Firefox will replace any previous version. > Not always - I just debugged a user whose 10.0.2esr Firefox was install

Re: [wpkg-users] Running at shutdown

2012-02-10 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello Alan > Does WPKG put messages to the screen, for example "do not shut down or > power off, installing software"? Windows Vista and later changed the logout and shutdown procedure. The mechanism the old wpkgclient is using doesn't work with Vista+. It is pretty much the same reason why wpk

Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG + Wireless Laptops

2012-02-03 Thread heiko . helmle
> i have been hoping I could use wpkg, running as a service, to allow > deployment during lessons. Using AD deployment simply prevents the > lesson from starting. (I only have one day every 3 weeks in each > school, so doing it out of normal hours is generally not possible.) > However the issue

Re: [wpkg-users] MSIs, install paths and different architectures

2011-12-05 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello, > Is the only option going to be the slightly messy approach to > install to a new directory in the root of c:? That will mean having > to modify the existing data files that have already been authored, > but will only have to be done once, before we create too many more. I'm afraid yes

Re: [wpkg-users] Problems with download tag

2011-09-21 Thread heiko . helmle
fixed it - at least this works - I don't really speak Jscript :) Index: wpkg.js === --- wpkg.js (Revision 1304) +++ wpkg.js (Arbeitskopie) @@ -1851,7 +1851,7 @@ } } } - ret

[wpkg-users] Problems with download tag

2011-09-21 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello, I have problems with the download tag and wpkg 1.2.1-rc20... it looks like 1.2.1-rc20 is totally ignoring tags... can anybody reproduce this?- wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-

[wpkg-users] No console output when using /debug

2011-09-15 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello, When using wpkg.js (1.2.1-RC18) with /debug switch (specifically, /debug /noreboot /nonotify), then there's no output to the console any more. Is this a bug or did I miss a change? Best Regards Heiko H

Re: [wpkg-users] MSI install issues

2011-09-09 Thread heiko . helmle
It depends on what the author of the MSI has set as default. Microsofts default for MSIs is per-user install. See http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367559%28v=vs.85%29.aspx From: "Shier, Jon" To: "heiko.hel...@horiba.com" Cc: "'wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org'" Date: 08.09.2011 17:49 Subj

Re: [wpkg-users] MSI install issues

2011-09-07 Thread heiko . helmle
wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org wrote on 08.09.2011 03:41:01: > I have one msi install that I am having issues with using wpkg, it > will not create the program files shortcuts or desktop shortcuts. I > have moved this msi from a standard windows domain GPO, which > installs just fine. I just

Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 234] Additional command line parameters /noquiet /notify etc

2011-08-28 Thread heiko . helmle
> MOD: Updated log file handling. Now there is no intermediate local log file > created any more. Instead a log is kept in memory as long as the log file > is not initialized. If anything goes wrong WPKG still tries to flush the > logs at least to a log file in %TEMP%. > This

Re: [wpkg-users] Using wpkg to set windows update to use wsus

2011-08-22 Thread heiko . helmle
> [wpkg-users] Using wpkg to set windows update to use wsus > > Does anyone have the settings they use to push out the settings to make > windows use their internal WSUS server? Normally when we setup a new pc > we go in to gpedit.msc and manually configure them. However I have found > the reg

Re: [wpkg-users] How to uninstall old version, reboot and install new version after the reboot

2011-07-21 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello Matthias, a) this problem is fixed in recent tortoisesvn-builds - it's an MSI-bug that they worked around now. Nevertheless, if you replace older versions, the bug might still bite you. b) uninstalling during upgrade works fine here - reboot in between is not necessary for tortoise and c

Re: [wpkg-users] Host match disruptive changes in 1.2?

2011-07-19 Thread heiko . helmle
> Honestly I did even not think about this too much before since in my > mind people > were using one or the other, but not both. But as it's technically > possible to > use hosts.xml and hosts/*.xml at the same time I think the old > approach was more > logical. > I thought the same, but wh

Re: [wpkg-users] Host match disruptive changes in 1.2?

2011-07-19 Thread heiko . helmle
> information you provide it seems to be logical and intentional for > me that the > "default" profile is applied to the host since your name="." would > match all the > hosts. If you don't intend to match them all then make sure > hosts.xml does not > contain such a "catch all" host entry wh

Re: [wpkg-users] Replace xmlhttp download with curl/wget

2011-07-14 Thread heiko . helmle
> > So we can have predefined options for e.g. wget or curl in wpkg.js, > > while preserving the possibility to use another tool. > > ...eg, a script (cmd suffices?!) that also check the MD5 of the file, > preventing wpkg tring to install ever an ever that corrupted installer. > ;-) > > This clea

[wpkg-users] Replace xmlhttp download with curl/wget

2011-07-14 Thread heiko . helmle
ss just because the network goes down (mobile users tend to be pretty mobile sometimes) * some Installers (especially MSI) are for some reasons really really slow and use huge network resources (10x the actual size) when run over SMB. They work fine when run from local storage. What do

Re: [wpkg-users] Reflections on a new application deployment software.

2011-06-14 Thread heiko . helmle
wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org wrote on 14.06.2011 23:32:37: > I'm currently thinking about a new deployment tool software for You might want to take a look at ocsinventory ( http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/). It might scratch your itch :) > Microsoft systems (XP/Vista/7) like WPKG but with t

Re: [wpkg-users] Blank user interaction window

2011-04-20 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello Kevin, I have the same issue with Win7 (32 and 64) and WPKG-Client and mentioned this on this list back in August. This seems to be a bug only in 1.3.14 - if you can live with the assortment of bugs in any other version, use those. Or try wpkg-gp. I'd love to see the source of 1.3.14 -

Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Development Status

2011-03-28 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello CL, >> You could marry this feature with the prompt. AFAIK there's an API >> for Applications to pop up a message on shutdown (like Word with a >> document open displays Save, Don't Save, Cancel). You could pop up a >> dialog as well (install update, shutdown immediately) via the same >>

Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Development Status

2011-03-25 Thread heiko . helmle
Some Ideas I carry around for a while: > - Optionally run in system tray and check for updated packages at > regular intervals. Inform users about updates and prompt them with > alternatives. (the platform is designed to be able do this) I really looking forward to this one. I have lots of user

Re: [wpkg-users] Windows 7 Install

2010-12-21 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello Jeff, I found out that a few versions of the WPKG.MSI are buggy. The problem is that they don't request elevated mode, then try to write to privileged space and fail. On most systems, writing to %programfiles% even works but they fail when wpkginst.exe is started as part of the installati

Re: [wpkg-users] Windows 7 - Compatible?

2010-12-13 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello, > The system is now that the wpkg-gp.dll running as a GPE will contact > a service and ask it to execute wpkg.js. Would you mind checking this into a branch of you public repository at g-code? Maybe there's help out there :) (I'm not promising anything because personally I have c++-phobi

Re: [wpkg-users] [BUG?] On upgrade old check condition are parsed...

2010-11-25 Thread heiko . helmle
> > But i've discovered that anyway the ''upgrade'' actions are executed, > even if the new check condition are false for a ''broken'' vlc > installation. > > Seems to me that WPKG evaluate on upgrade the old check condition, and > not the new one (or better: evaluate on pre-action the old one, a

Re: [wpkg-users] Windows 7 x64 location of wpkg.xml

2010-11-07 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello Damian, You need to install the x64-version of the WPKG-Client on x64-windows. There are a few "bounce"-like tricks to do with the x86-one but using the x64-version on 64bit-OS is the cleanest (and most simple) solution. Best Regards Heiko From: "Damian Kasper" To: Date: 08.1

Re: [wpkg-users] test successfull or not ?

2010-10-19 Thread heiko . helmle
wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org wrote on 20.10.2010 07:55:46: > > The strange thing is that any package tests are succesfull and others not ! > For example, a similar test for Firefox install is ok : > 2010-10-20 07:42:16, DEBUG : Uninstall entry 'Mozilla Firefox (3. > 6.10)' matches string

Re: [wpkg-users] Bandwidth Limiting

2010-08-30 Thread heiko . helmle
wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org wrote on 30.08.2010 20:02:34: > From: > > Aaron Bliss > > If you are using a samba server for your back end, the max xmit > configuration option may be what you are looking for. > No, sorry - max xmit limits the packet size. You don't want to do this and you

Re: [wpkg-users] Bandwidth Limiting

2010-08-29 Thread heiko . helmle
> [wpkg-users] Bandwidth Limiting > > When a new update comes out we need some method of > limiting the bandwidth of the transfer to those computers, so it > won’t slow the entire network down. Well it depends on how you invoke the installers. Normal operation of WPKG is running the installe

[wpkg-users] Garbled Display on Win7 secure desktop

2010-08-16 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello, Does anyone know why all displays (including the cscript window) are garbled/broken on the Windows 7 secure desktop with wpkg-client 1.3.14? (Curiously it seems to look better with wpkg-client 1.3.13) Tested on Windows 7 VMs and real hardware, 32 and 64 bit: * Install WPKG-Client * let

Re: [wpkg-users] Windows 7 - wpkg client service starts, but "Network path was not found"

2010-08-16 Thread heiko . helmle
Hey, We solved this by activating offline mode and a generous timeout of 60 seconds. Turns out Windows 7 brings up the network very late (sometimes even after the user has already logged in). 60 seconds is a pretty big timeout (maybe 30 is enough...), but in my Test-VM at least, a 10second tim

Re: [wpkg-users] Registry Check failing

2010-08-02 Thread heiko . helmle
> path="HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer > \UpgradeCodes\AA5D9C68C00F12943B2F6CA09FE28244" > /> > > Neither the registry path > 'HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer > \UpgradeCodes\AA5D9C68C00F12943B2F6CA09FE28244' > nor its expanded value of > 'HKLM\

Re: [wpkg-users] A few quick questions

2010-07-01 Thread heiko . helmle
> Also, what is the best way to use wpkg to change the administrator > account password on windows xp and vista? I don't know the best way - i used a variant of a vbscript Dr.Google found for me. If you have powershell installed on XP I'd suggest you use that instead - it's much more readable.

Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG and WPKG-GP

2010-06-25 Thread heiko . helmle
> > I was under the impression that the current WPKG client can't delay the > > logon and display information during the boot up process > > http://wpkg.org/Screenshots#Windows_Vista on Windows >= Vista > > ok, that. I thought you meant it didn't work at all :) > Well it works, but no logon-del

Re: [wpkg-users] Problems with the WOW64 mess

2010-06-07 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello Tomasz, List, > > Are you sure? Shouldn't the "Connecting" stage fail first? > > Can you try: > > net use /delete * > > prior to any tests (to make sure you're not trying to be connected twice > anywhere)? > Tried, - net use list is empty. I switched to a Win7 VM (32bit) for testing

Re: [wpkg-users] Problems with the WOW64 mess

2010-06-01 Thread heiko . helmle
wice to the same share with the same > credentials, and you see the error. Are you sure? Shouldn't the "Connecting" stage fail first? And why does it work when I use Windows "runas" and not WPKGs built in execution context feature? I

Re: [wpkg-users] Problems with the WOW64 mess

2010-05-19 Thread heiko . helmle
> So you're planning to use "runas" with the Administrator account I guess. For > sure this might be an option as well. > This could have been a solution to the "broken Innosetup" installer > problem some > of us faced a while ago. Some new version of Innosetup was just hanging during > the inst

Re: [wpkg-users] Problems with the WOW64 mess

2010-05-18 Thread heiko . helmle
fault. That would mean no UAC-Prompts for this user - so it'd work for silent installs. It just needs to be activated (and passworded). I'll try this and report back to the list :) Best Regards Heiko Helmle-

[wpkg-users] Problems with the WOW64 mess

2010-05-17 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello list, I'm currently and regularly running into the WOW64 mess while trying to make my wpkg-package collection "Win64-ready". The problem consists of two facts: * A 32 bit installshield .exe * the WOW brain-hurt diversion layer * MSI * WPKG running as user SYSTEM and the SYSTEM profile sit

Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 183] Downgrade should fall back to Upgrade when no downgrade rules exist

2010-05-04 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello List > > > > > > I love this idea - this would save lots of copy/paste and "s/- wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg

Re: [wpkg-users] Excluding particular OS and architecture types from patch application

2010-04-29 Thread heiko . helmle
e easy 'shortcut checks' could also make life easier (and xmls smaller), like a check type "arch" or "winversion". I know these are easily replaced by registry check or cmd script, so I consider this

Re: [wpkg-users] windows 7 problem with one package

2010-04-27 Thread heiko . helmle
> > This is a shot in the dark - is "show gui" activated in the wpkg > > service? I had several packages behave oddly when this was not active > > (stalling or failing). > > I never thought of that. On your suggestion I tried showing the GUI, > but the results were the same. Except that now the I

Re: [wpkg-users] windows 7 problem with one package

2010-04-26 Thread heiko . helmle
> > I have a simple package that installs an engineering program. It > looks like this: > > > value="2009.9" /> > > > > > This works on all my XP machines. On Win 7 it works fine if run > from a command > prompt using wpkg in debug mode. But if run at boot time it hangs > and does no

Re: [wpkg-users] Package upgrade and checks

2010-04-22 Thread heiko . helmle
dencies to manage. And you can do stuff like this:

Re: [wpkg-users] Package upgrade and checks

2010-04-22 Thread heiko . helmle
Hello Marc, > Hi guys, > > Then I > ran WPKG again expecting that the checks will be met and the upgrade > commands wouldn't be run. But the debug output states that the checks > were not executed and the upgrade commands were run immediately leading > to the same error again. > > Is this the in

[wpkg-users] MSI-Installer 1.3.14 on Win7

2010-03-25 Thread Heiko Helmle (horiba/eu)
ther hand I guess someone must have run into this already and maybe I missed something. PS: Beta 1.3.10 runs fine. Best Regards Heiko Helmle- wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http:/

Re: [wpkg-users] Variable expansion question

2010-02-17 Thread Heiko Helmle (horiba/eu)
Hello Paul, This didn't work for me either (on 1.3.9 and 1.3.10 at least). I defined it as a variable in the profile. Best Regards Heiko From: "Landers, Paul" To: "wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org" Date: 17.02.2010 20:57 Subject: [wpkg-users] Variable expansion question I'm having diffi

Re: [wpkg-users] Old Feature Request / Perhaps New Idea

2010-02-17 Thread Heiko Helmle (horiba/eu)
ling extra scripts :) Best Regards Heiko Helmle- wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lis

Re: [wpkg-users] Old Feature Request / Perhaps New Idea

2010-02-17 Thread Heiko Helmle (horiba/eu)
Hello Stefan, Thanks for your reply - > > Well - the start-menu part is saved in the registry: > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion > \Explorer\Shell Folders\Common Programs > > > > If WPKG could expand some of those paths ("Common Desktop" would > > also be very use

[wpkg-users] Old Feature Request / Perhaps New Idea

2010-02-17 Thread Heiko Helmle (horiba/eu)
t variable, which then could be used inside an install cmd. What do you think? Best Regards Heiko Helmle- wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipe