Paul McGrath-2 wrote:
>
>
> Hi Simon,
> I was wondering why you don't run WPKG as a service as it is designed?
I've been using WPKG for a long time (originally on Win98 with linux SMB
servers) so I've just kept things simple with running it as a all users
startup bat file :)
AFAIK this save
Chris Mortimer-2 wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> For info, I use the following for my Win7 clients:-users
>
>
Quite :)
Bit of an overkill just so I know when its the right time to go home :)
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Marco Gaiarin wrote:
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> I use the same command, but on pre/post WPKGClient scripts, and works
> flawlessy...
I'm getting the same problem as the OP.
I'm just trying out my old scripts on a Win7 pro machine and this is one of
the problems - I get:-
Exit code returned non-successful value (2)
Hi - long time since I last posted here (as WPKG just works :) )
I use WPKG in 6 schools but all XP machines.
I'm now trying to use it on Win7 but its a bit of a fight :)
I run WPKG on logon from shortcut in allusers program startup folder.
(All users have administrator rights)
I've created a s
I'm trying to write a package to deploy some files and then run an
install.bat files afterwards
[code]
[/code]
the install.bat file works fine when run directly from explorer as %CD%
contains its path and it needs it path to function but when I run it from
WPKG it doesn't seem to
David Abilleira wrote:
>
> Perhaps you could make a couple of simple scripts:
> · One that writes today's date on a registry key
> · One that checks that registry key to see if matches today's date
>
> You can add *the first as a command to all* installation tasks ,
> and the second as a comm
Kevin Keane-2 wrote:
> The first request should be fairly easy to do: just add only one
> application at a time to your profiles.
My main issues are machines that for one reason or another haven't run WPKG
each day - e.g wireless machines that have failed to connect to the wireless
since the la
I've a need for some sort of mechanism to just deploy one package at a time
at each run of wpkg.js.
Some packages (Anti-virus, service packs etc) can take a long time to
install and I'd like to have WPKG just do one of these packages on one run
of wpkg.js (e.g. one package the 1st time and then t
Vesion 3 uploaded
Now outputs the packages that would be installed and not just the ones
already installed :)
Also, the comptuer Event log was being flooded by debug information so I
disabled Event logging when /hppcheck invoked
Modifled version available here
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I've uploaded an updated version which will not suppress error messages and
also outputs both the client machine host name and the host node WPKG
matches to it
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I recently made up a package to deploy Scratch 1.4.
It had a check condition in to make sure it wasn't deployed if it already
existed (some machines had been updated manually) and I deployed it to all
my workstations and after I'd done about half the school I noticed that I'd
forgotton to copy a
I decided the best way was to modify wpkg.js by adding a few if statements to
just output the host/profile(s)/package(s) information.
I did this by adding an extra flag (/hppcheck) which invokes /synchronise,
/dryrun and /quiet and the mods just turn off /quiet at appropriate points.
Modifled ve
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Paul McGrath-2 wrote:
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> Hi,
> I am trying to apply a number of profiles to the same host.
>
>
Hi
I can't see anything wrong with your code but you might want to try out my
latest offering which will make it easier to see what profiles/packages WPKG
thinks it should be trying to apply to a
mangoo wrote:
>
>
> Check the hostname, and then, check against the remote hosts.xml?
>
>
yes - that would work - I was just wondering if there was an easy way
already :)
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Is it possible to access the host/profile parameters that WPKG is applying on
each run.
e,g I'd like to know what host/profile WPKG is going to apply on next run
without having to do a /debug run and wade through all the information :)
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Lukasz Zalewski wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Has anyone had any experience/success with running AutoIt scripts with
> wpkg update.
>
I used to do this a lot in the past as a lot of educational software didn't
have msi packages.
I found that an AutoIt script would usually have about a 90% chance of
w
Just wondered how others around here use WPKG.
I use it very simply :)
I just copy a shortcut to the all users startup folder and run a batch file
containing cscript %WPKGROOT%\wpkg.js /synchronise
(currently modifying this to put a batch file directly into the startup
folder that delays callin
Thanks very much for walking me through this :)
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Good so far then :)
So I now increase revision number.
wpkg sees the revision increase and jumps straight to the upgrade commands
(just ignores the check statement and assumes the upgrade is needed due to
the revision increase)
On completion of the upgrade commands(and assuming no errors reporte
OK - lets see if I've got this :)
1st run of package with a simple "does the uninstall exist" check command.
If check command = false (which it would normally be) then install commands
invoked and assuming no errors, check is run again and if check=true then
wpkg assumes package installed.
On su
Just a simple question as I've never used checks before :)
Are checks just used for the install command?
Are they ignored when a package revision is incremented and the upgrade
command is executed?
Or can you have separate check conditions for an upgrade?
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I've decided to take the plunge and update my school machines to IE7 (don't
want to go to IE8 as I'm told that our VLE - Moodle - doesn't play well with
IE8)
Anyway - the IE7 package on the wiki uses reboot=true and this caught me by
surprise when I tried it out as I've never used a package when
Rainer Meier wrote:
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> Hi Simon,
>
> Well this warning is justified I think because this is a profile/package
> inconsistency where the administrator schould have a look at
> ...
>
> Regarding the fact of profile inconsistency I prefer to send at least a
> warning-level notification to the ad
Rainer Meier wrote:
>
> I've changed the algorithm slightly to make the remove procedure think
> that a
> package without checks is always assumed to be in "still installed
> correctly"
> state. So WPKG will not remove it from the settings database any more.
>
Thank you very much indeed :-)
I
Chris Wilcox wrote:
>
>
> I also use WPKG across 16 schools. One of the first things I did when
> trialling and now using wpkg live was dredge out an old and unused PC
> capable of running XP Pro and set this up as a test workstation for wpkg
> packages before I roll things out to the live net
I don't know how you are viewing my message but when I view it on Nabble - it
shows the relavent part of the documentation in bold :)
Please just look at the documentation in wpkg.js about noremove especially
the last bit
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Rainer Meier wrote:
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>
> Could you explain this "certain circumstances" in a bit more detail
> because it
> might be a bug. I've checked the code and wpkg.xml entries are only
> removed in
> the removePackage function. And all of them are completely skipped if the
> /noremove flag (or noremove
Starting from the beginning again :)
I adminster several small school networks and use wpkg to deploy packages to
several machines if it is quicker to use wpkg than to go around all
computers and do a manual install.
I want to be able to test a new package out or a modified one on an existing
li
I hadn't realised that WPKG removed an wpkg.xml entry before upgrading it -
(e.g line 614) so my initial modification request is no longer valid :(
I'll have to learn more and try again in the future :)
> If this is not what you want to achieve please explain your use-case in
> more detail.
>
If it never happens - then users won't see the messages :)
This is just part of my endless attempts to get WPKG to not remove packages
from wpkg.xml if there are no positive instructions to do.
If you add a few if/else statements (I'm more than willing to supply the
code changes from my modded
Rainer Meier wrote:
>
> Hmm, I am not aware that there is a "depends" attribute on package level.
> It's
> also not part of the XSD files defining the XML file structure. So if it
> has
> ever been part of WPKG it must have been before 1.0 release and it's not
> supported currently.
>
>
I've t
simplesi wrote:
>
> Also - is there a history of changelogs on the wiki - if not I'll try and
> make ones up from the release docs.
>
Sorry -didn't notice them as links - OK now :)
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Rainer Meier wrote:
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>
> Personally I prefer to specify that A is a dependency for B and then
> either
> assign A and B or just B to the profile which will assure that package A
> is
> installed first (since B depends on it).
>
>
Thats what I do (I add both packages but specify that B depend
And looking at Wiki edits - a user called Talk edited it with the new
descriptions on Aug 18 2009
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:)
I know dependancy came in a few years ago:)
I meant when did the old method of dependancy (e.g a package must already be
installed for another package to be attempted to be installed) change to the
new model?
The new method seems to imply that packages will automatically be included
for inst
Just as a matter of interest - when did the new dependancy functionality come
in (e.g new depends/chain/including) or has it been there for ages and I've
just missed it! :)
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Hi - I've been on holiday but back now :)
Rainer Meier wrote:
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>
> A negative effect would be that after a while there might be pretty much
> packages in wpkg.xml where no remove command is specified and where there
> is no
> corresponding package on server side...
>
>
All these points are
Chris Wilcox wrote:
>
> I don't even use upgrade commands, I tend to remove an existing app and
> create a new xml file for the new version.
>
I do the opposite - I change the upgrade command and don't have any remove
commands - so we are
using wpkg in completely different ways
> Writing a
Rainer Meier wrote:
>
>
> Sure, these days I would call it "include" but also the "depends" node
> does the
> same job - so apart from possible confusion there is no reason to change
> it.
> Changing it would mean to break compatibility with very little advantages.
>
>
Could I suggest that w
I've been thinking about WPKGs default behaviour (following from earlier
discussions) and I'd like to start a genuine discussion on changing its
current behaviour.
Currently, WPKG will attempt to remove an existing package from the local
compuer wpkg.xml file if it decides that an existing packag
Quick bug fix V0.4d available via
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Issues fixed since 0.4c:
Column widths ARE better :)
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It allows you to simply edit the value of the priority attribute in your
package files.
To use, enter the location of your wpkg root directory where package.xml
lies and then
click on Load Package
The two packages are read in correctly: the first one with a priority of
1000 and the second one has no priority attribute at all.
Ok - adding code to deal with no priority attribute.
do you have any suggestions as to how to deal with this.
Should the program display these packages (indic
Malte Starostik-2 wrote:
>
> You could run wpkg.js with /install: for testing
I didn't know about that option - I'll investigate it :)
Or add a profile with just that package to the host definition. To check
installation and
> removal, you could then just toggle the use of this profile by com
Could WPKG be modified to allow direct allocation of a package to a host.
The main use for this would be for testing to save a lot of editing when
testing out a package.
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It allows you to simply edit the value of the priority attribute in your
package files.
To use, enter the location of your wpkg root directory where package.xml
lies and then
click on Load Package
I've put at bit more work into a WPKG Priority Package Editor and v0.2 is
available via this link
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It allows you to simply edit the priority attribute in your package files.
To use, enter the location of your wpkg roo
Pendl Stefan wrote:
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> The Firefox silent installer is using it I think.
>
Thanks - that did the job nicely :)
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Rainer Meier wrote:
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> So I suggest making it available and add a README.txt to the package where
> you
> put all your warnings and concerns. Some instructions might be helpful
> too.
>
Instructions will come at much later date - I'm an old style programmer - I
don't do documentation :)
I've
mangoo wrote:
>
> Any URL to actually download it?
>
I'll email the download link to anyone who asks for it as I wouldn't want
people to use it and wipe their main wpkg installation with it before I've
found any bugs!
I've never published a VB project since VB3 days so beware!
regards
Simon
I've written a simple tool (in VB 2008) to edit package priorities.
I'm looking for some alpha testers who know NOT to use it on a live system.
It can easily be tested on a copy of a typical packages folder.
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Rainer Meier wrote:
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> Using the logs you can always prove if WPKG really executed the commands
> you expected or not.
>
AFAICT the log file doesn't indicate that that my expected update has not
been done - wpkg just updates the wpkg.xml version number as if it had been
sucessful. :(
I was j
Pendl Stefan wrote:
>
> For Windows XP and newer, you can use the TASKKILL utility.
>
Ta - I've have to lookup how to use it
(any examples greatly received :) )
> On the other hand, how about running the AutoIT script from the WPKG
> launcher ???
> This way you can make sure they are always
I run wpkg as a bat file in all users/programs/startup.
I run another program in startup (a choose program to choose what network
folder to map to a drive letter) and I need to update that program.
Unfortunately, since it is running at the same time as wpkg, I can't
overwrite it using wpkg :)
I
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AFAIK the default behaviour of WPKG is designed to do an update before a
remove is attempted in order to give you a chance to alter the remove
command.
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Rainer Meier wrote:
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> I just removed the
> word "already" from my local version so it will just state "Package and
> all
> chained packages are installed succssfully.
>
Thanks - yes -everything works - it just confused me (which isn't hard :) )
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Hi,
I was adding a new package (autopupillogonnull) to a profile and noticed
that WPKG was telling me the package was already installed on the first run
on wpkg.js after adding the package e.g
Console output using WPKG 1.1.0
Installing 'Set Pupil user to auto logon' (autologonpupilnull)...
Pack
an/or the /noremove flag as well :)
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I would like to know if WPKG would behave as you expected if you comment out
(or
> delete) line 4547 (WPKG 1.1.1-RC0) ...
>
Yes - that seems to make WPKG behave as I'd like :-)
> If that works for you I am thinking about to make the
> upgrade-before-remove
> feature optional by introducing a
Rainer Meier wrote:
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> Hi Simon,
>
> If you allow me to make one more proposal...
>
>
Thank you very much for your proposal. :-)
I will try out your suggestion and get back to you as quickly as possible :)
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If you use the /noforcedremove flag in either a testing or a production
enviroment would you please reply to this thread as I am trying to see if
other users use it.
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You are the current maintainer of a multi-purpose tool that has been around
and used by a number of people for a long time.
I have used WPKG across about 10 primary schools (ages 5-11) where secure
locked down networks are not required or needed.
I believe that my suggestion of WPKG doing nothin
I am very sorry that you are unable to view WPKG as a tool that is used in
many different ways.
You seem to think that your way of package deployment is right and that
other ways are wrong.
This is not good.
I hope that in future, you will listen more to users :)
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Rainer Meier wrote:
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> You did not answer yet if your packages define some checks.
>
I believe I published my package in my last post - I think you missed it :)
It does not have any checks
> The only difference (and that's what is irritating you I think) is that
> WPKG is
> going to verify t
Falko Trojahn-2 wrote:
>
>
> what I understand here is:
>
> * you have package with "execute=always"
>
> * you complain about: if this package is removed from the profile,
> wpkg should do nothing, if there is no uninstall entry
>
> Is this understanding correct?
>
yes
> If yes: please
Rainer Meier wrote:
>
> However the issue you face with your packages might come from the fact
> that you
> did not specify appropriate checks for the packages. From your description
> I
> have to assume that you do not specify any checks. As a result the
> WPKG-internal
> isInstalled() check wi
Rainer Meier wrote:
>
> Hi Simon,
> This might be because of the update-before-remove functionality...
>
OK - I've read some of the older posts about this functionality and I can
see it is a complicated subject :)
I realise this request might be shot down but hopefully you/we'll have a
nice d
When testing I removed a package from a profile but wpkg seemed to still run
it the next time i ran my logon script (which does cscript
%WPKGROOT%\wpkg.js /synchronize )
It them doesn't do run it on subsequent runs.
I'm assuming it looks in wpkg.xml and sees the entry there and decides to
run it
mangoo wrote:
>
> If you have 2 minutes of your time, could you guys add your testimonials
> to http://wpkg.org/Testimonials? ;)
>
> I work in 9 small schools that mainly use Win98 machines as "servers" and
> use it to deploy software installs in combination with Autoit scripts.
> Approx 3
Chris Wilcox wrote:
>
> The XML for my PhotoStory package is as follows:
>
>
> reboot="false" priority="0" depends="mediaplayer10">
>
>
Ta very much :)
>
> Out of curiousity, whereabouts or which schools do you support? I've got
> WPKG going in 13 now, it has revolutionised the su
Pendl Stefan wrote:
>
> The dependency needs to be placed in the package, not in the profile.
>
Ahh - thank you - I;ll try and update the wiki to make that a bit more
obvious :)
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Hi again
I was asked to install MS PhotoStory at one school this afternoon and since
I have packages for this and Media Player 10 (which it needs installing
first) I thought I try out the package dependency facilities
I placed this code in my profile
..
Rainer Meier wrote:
>
>
> ...This way wpkg.js will never remove any settings node. But hey, I really
> don't
> see any legitimate use case for this.
>
>
Well the legitimate use is that I'd like to do it and I don't think anyone
or any computer dies as a result of doing this :)
If the sett
Rainer Meier wrote:
>
>
> In any case I think Simon should take a bit more care about an integral
> and
> sensitive part of his software environment. In most cases re-installing an
> application is not an issue and if it is then I suggest testing and
> carefully
> handling the package datab
Chris Wilcox wrote:
>
> Without meaning to be offensive, the answer to this perhaps is not within
> WPKG itself but more in your housekeeping of the xml files?
>
:lol:
Well - everyone makes mistooks :)
> Take a look at the /noremove command line options resp. the noRemove
> config.xml param
Hello - I've been away from the list for a while so apologies if this has
been answered recently.
When I'm changing my hosts/profiles files I sometimes end up not specfiying
a previously applied package and wpkg attempts to uninstall it.
I never have any uninstall commands in my packages and wpk
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