Re: [WSG] CSS book

2003-12-14 Thread Ryan Christie
Actually dude, I haven't seen a good book that can do that for you. I've seen books, but they sort of suck. I am working on an online tutorial/informational center for XHTML, CSS, and directions to at standards from. I'll keep you posted on development. -Ryan Taco Fleur wrote: What is a reall

RE: [WSG] CSS book

2003-12-14 Thread Taco Fleur
> Actually dude, I haven't seen a good book that can do that > for you. That's what I thought, I have bought books from Zeldman etc. and they all sort of touch the subject but nothing really specific. Thanks Grab shell dude! * The discussion

Re: [WSG] CSS book

2003-12-14 Thread Gino Ferraro
Check our "Eric Meyer on CSS". While not aimed only at CSS layouts, it includes some really good projects on layouts and every step is explained in detail and includes options for taking the project to an advanced level. Cheers Gino Taco Fleur wrote: What is a really good book aimed at only CSS

[WSG] microsoft.com

2003-12-14 Thread James Ellis
hi all Was just trying to find some information on sending headers to IE and noticed that microsoft.com is not displaying some images to non-IE browsers. A quick switcheroo on the user agent shows that yes, Mozilla (much like IE) can render images. At first I'd thought I'd inadvertently turned

Re: [WSG] do people still use bookmarks?

2003-12-14 Thread Anton Andreasson
I don't know about you guys, but Word Documents, Bookmarks and URI namespace rules takes a lot of space on this list now, and I'm drowning.. Could we all please be a little more brief when discussion thos (OT) issues, ok? TIA, /Anton -- What your lacks, your compensates.

RE: [WSG] do people still use bookmarks?

2003-12-14 Thread Gary Menzel
> With all due respect Gary... > http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html (look for "I didn't think URLs > have to be persistent - that was URNs") I think that document just highlights how inefficient the current conventions are for ensuring a piece of information will always be accessible. I t

[WSG] Web Standards OT ?? (was: do people still use bookmarks?)

2003-12-14 Thread Gary Menzel
> I don't know about you guys, but Word Documents, Bookmarks and URI > namespace rules takes a lot of space on this list now, and I'm > drowning.. Could we all please be a little more brief when discussion > thos (OT) issues, ok? While I agree with regard to discussion on Word Documents (and prob

RE: [WSG] do people still use bookmarks?

2003-12-14 Thread Taco Fleur
While I agree with you on Bookmarks, I feel that comments like these keep this list from growing and providing help to those who need it (me for one). I think an offlist email aimed at the offenders would have done more good, I have not been on this list long yet, but in the time I have been he

[WSG] CSS & Tables...

2003-12-14 Thread Chris Stratford
I have always wanted to do this… I have never seen it possible without TABLES or Absolute positioning…   It must be possible though.   What I want to do is, have 1 piece of text aligned LEFT, and on the same line, another piece of text aligned RIGHT…   It’s a admin panel, where the l

Re: [WSG] CSS & Tables...

2003-12-14 Thread russ weakley
There are many ways, based on floating bits to left or right. Here is a quick sample: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/login_test.htm HTH Russ > I have always wanted to do thisŠ > > I have never seen it possible without TABLES or Absolute positioningŠ > > > > It must be possible though. >

[WSG] Standards Award Site

2003-12-14 Thread Cameron Adams
Hi, On this page: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2003/12/15/ I discuss my plans for a standards-based awards site. Anyone interested in helping or commenting can do so via the page. Regards, -- Cameron __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - eas

Re: [WSG] CSS & Tables...

2003-12-14 Thread scott parsons
how about something like this? http://realworldstyle.com/split.html This should be good for a start anyway... Chris Stratford wrote: I have always wanted to do this I have never seen it possible without TABLES or Absolute positioning It must be possible though. What I want to do is, have 1 pie

RE: [WSG] CSS & Tables...

2003-12-14 Thread Hill, Tim
Title: Message You could apply a float to the LOGOUT that makes it float to the right. but have this above the text on the left in the HTML,   try this belong to usall your base are   if both are in block tags, you could apply a float: left to one and a float: right to the other.   will

Re: [WSG] CSS & Tables... [Virus checkedAU]

2003-12-14 Thread Viktor . Radnai
This email is to be read subject to the disclaimer below. Hi Chris, I see that Russ has already answered my question, but I should add that using this method you can have more than two things each side. Here's a really simple example I did: I'm floating... p { clear: none; width: 2

[WSG] CSS & Tables - Thanks

2003-12-14 Thread Chris Stratford
Ok, wow… Well I must have done something wrong when I tried the FLOAT:LEFT and right…   It did get to me, so I left it hehehe   Also, if you want to see my full CSS Guestbook: www.neester.com/guestbook.php   What do you think of that? I think it makes the page load quicker because s

[WSG] Hiding LEGEND in Netscape 4

2003-12-14 Thread Miles Tillinger
I'm developing an accessible form template that uses fieldsets. I'm hiding the legend using display:none so it doesn't appear, which keeps the form accessible. Problem is that the legend still displays in Netscape 4, but I thought display:none was supported? e.g. Title class is legDefault

Re: [WSG] Hiding LEGEND in Netscape 4

2003-12-14 Thread russ weakley
Try: display: none; > > I'm developing an accessible form template that uses fieldsets. I'm hiding > the legend using display:none so it doesn't appear, which keeps the form > accessible. Problem is that the legend still displays in Netscape 4, but I > thought display:none was supported? > >

RE: [WSG] Hiding LEGEND in Netscape 4

2003-12-14 Thread Miles Tillinger
before you say it, yes, i did actually use a . in the declaration, e.g. legDefault { default: none; } -Original Message- From: Miles Tillinger Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:42 PM To: Web Standards Group (E-mail) Subject: [WSG] Hiding LEGEND in Netscape 4 I'm developing an access

Re: [WSG] CSS & Tables...

2003-12-14 Thread James Ellis
Hey Chris why don't you try a horizontal list - they're ok for this kind of stuff. I do a similar thing at my.spamtrap.net.au with titles and logins... Cheers James * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ ***

RE: [WSG] Hiding LEGEND in Netscape 4

2003-12-14 Thread Miles Tillinger
DOH, I did a fantastic job of writing this email! Let me try again: Title legDefault { display: none; } This works fine in IE4+ and Mozilla flavours. But not NS4... -Original Message- From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:45 PM To: Web Standa

RE: [WSG] CSS & Tables...

2003-12-14 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey James, I already have a horizontal list. It's just really for any Admins I appoint to the website, and myself. Here is a screenshot of the admin panel. This is where I wanted the title to split left and right, but its too tricky for me at the moment. Too much screwing around, so I am going t

RE: [WSG] CSS & Tables...

2003-12-14 Thread Chris Stratford
Sorry 4 the second email. But if you want to load the admin up on your PC: www.neester.com/administration.php user: test pass: test you wont have any user rights at the moment. I may allow some right later on for the test account. Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] h

[WSG] Strange Netscape list button behaviour

2003-12-14 Thread Universal Head
Title: Strange Netscape list button behaviour HELP! http://universalhead.com/clients/oceanwavedigital/support_server.html I've tried everything, but I can't work out why the CSS for the left menu is not working properly in Netscape (PC and Mac - works fine in IE). There are 1 and 2 pixel differ

Re: [WSG] Strange Netscape list button behaviour

2003-12-14 Thread James Ellis
what version of netscape? Universal Head wrote: Strange Netscape list button behaviour HELP! http://universalhead.com/clients/oceanwavedigital/support_server.html I've tried everything, but I can't work out why the CSS for the left menu is not working properly in Netsc

RE: [WSG] Strange Netscape list button behaviour

2003-12-14 Thread Peter Ottery
Title: Strange Netscape list button behaviour hiya,   yeah, i'm seeing the prob in IE6 PC aswell... its a 1 pixel white border being added to some 's within 's and not others.   ie: where youve got the below (in red) in your stylesheet, some have border-right set to 1px, some have it set to

Re: [WSG] Strange Netscape list button behaviour

2003-12-14 Thread Universal Head
Title: Re: [WSG] Strange Netscape list button behaviour on the PC, the latest - 7.1. also Mozilla 1.5 on the mac P what version of netscape? Universal Head wrote: Strange Netscape list button behaviour HELP! http://universalhead.com/clients/oceanwavedigital/support_server.html I've tried ev