Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-20 Thread James Ellis
Hi Firefox is still in beta as well (I believe it is branched off the Mozilla 1.6 alpha build). The current Mozilla is 1.6 and Firefox 1.0 will most likely branch off 1.7 [1]. Developing to a beta's idiosyncrasies is fraught with danger, the best place to get them ironed out for Firefox is via

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-20 Thread Matthias
Hi Hugh! Now that it seems Opera is back in town for the Mac, with its 7.5 beta, has anyone come across any more current info on stats for this browser? I looked at several stats and Opera has something between 1% and 8% marketshare. The 8%-Value is from a german newsite where IE has only 55% and

Re: [WSG] A rave about 's

2004-03-20 Thread Tonico Strasser
Peter Firminger schrieb: Yes it's quite legal but it's semantically poor. This is what information architecture is all about. h1 (logo, slogan, navigation, search etc.) h1 h1 h1 That is the structure I would like to use. Any thoughts? Does the title of a book have the same semantic meaning a

Re: [WSG] A rave about 's

2004-03-20 Thread Tonico Strasser
James Ellis schrieb: Hi My thinking is that hN delineates headings of the same semantic weight (or groups content), be they styled by CSS like or or not*: I agree. The difference being that h1 is the highest level of the headings in a document - there is nothing really that comes to mind that

Re: [WSG] A rave about 's

2004-03-20 Thread russ weakley
We could probably argue this back and forward, but I feel very strongly that there should be only one on a page and it should be the page title. I used to think it should be the site name but am moving away from that stance now. To use your example of 2 company founders - there would always need

Re: [WSG] A rave about 's

2004-03-20 Thread russ weakley
Tonico, At the risk of flogging a dead horse, I realised that I gave you only an opinion instead of a reason why there should be only one on a page. I think it is critical that even if there are two distinct topics on a page, there must be some overall summary of them, and this should be used on

[WSG] Help us redesign the WSG site

2004-03-20 Thread russ weakley
Hi all, The WSG site was built very quickly when we first put the group together (just over a year ago). It is very much overdue for a redesign. In the spirit of group ownership, we thought it would be a good idea to open the process up to all members. Here is our idea: 1. Any member can submit a

Re: [WSG] A rave about 's

2004-03-20 Thread Gyrus
At 23:54 20/03/2004 +1100, you wrote: Company founders Joe Blog Blurb about Joe... Joe's career highs Career blurb... Jane doe Blurb about Jane... Jane's career highs Career blurb... site sections section 1 To jump back to another rela

Re: [WSG] Help us redesign the WSG site

2004-03-20 Thread Tim Lucas
russ weakley spoke the following wise words on 21/03/2004 1:58AM EST: The WSG site was built very quickly when we first put the group together (just over a year ago). It is very much overdue for a redesign. In the spirit of group ownership, we thought it would be a good idea to open the process up

Re: [WSG] A rave about 's

2004-03-20 Thread Tonico Strasser
Thanks Russ, that was a very lucid explanation. The only question that is still open to me (and I think that is what Gyrus is pointing out), how should we mark up sections in a semantically rich and accesible way? Example: HeaderStuff (not directly related to the actual document) The a

[WSG CMS] XHTML WSYWYG Editor

2004-03-20 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi lists, We were sent an email about an ActiveX control that may be of interest to CMS developers. Here is the message: I am one of the developers of XStandard - a standards-compliant XHTML 1.1 WYSIWYG editor. It helps non-technical business users generate clean and accessible code. We have a

[WSG] XHTML WSYWYG Editor

2004-03-20 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi lists, We were sent an email about an ActiveX control that may be of interest to CMS developers. Here is the message: I am one of the developers of XStandard - a standards-compliant XHTML 1.1 WYSIWYG editor. It helps non-technical business users generate clean and accessible code. We have a

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-20 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
James This , though will never give you an accurate picture as the UA can easily be faked (I can change Firefox to Safari). I agree with everything you said, except the above. How many people have the know how or intent to actually change the UA? IMHO, not enough to throw off the bell curve. I

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-20 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Matthias... lol I lvoe it! On Saturday, March 20, 2004, at 07:01 AM, Matthias wrote: Besides, as IE keeps me away from the more sophisticated things, Opera is no problem at all. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See h

Re: [WSG] A rave about 's

2004-03-20 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Tonico A website is not book. It is different, it is not something you hold in your hands, This very true and sometimes people with print experience still need to grasp it (sorry guys... you know who you are). However the reverse is also true. Programmers think in terms of modules (sections)

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-20 Thread Justin French
Where can I get the Opera 7.5 Beta? Couldn't see an obvious link on the site... --- Justin French http://indent.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints o

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-20 Thread russ weakley
Try here: http://snapshot.opera.com/mac/m750p3.html Russ > Where can I get the Opera 7.5 Beta? Couldn't see an obvious link on > the site... > > --- > Justin French > http://indent.com.au > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgrou

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-20 Thread Hugh Todd
Justin, Russ posted a link to a page a while back with links to all the preview versions: http://web-graphics.com/mtarchive/001178.php -Hugh Where can I get the Opera 7.5 Beta? Couldn't see an obvious link on the site... * The discussion li

[WSG] [CSS] IE6 header issue.

2004-03-20 Thread Nick Lo
Hello all, Ok this is my first fully CSS based site (still work in progress by the way) and I first of all want to give credit to Russ's great tutorial at: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/ I'm a little concerned at how closely I ended up to his original however the client had actuall

Re: [WSG] [CSS] IE6 header issue.

2004-03-20 Thread Neerav
You forgot the URL -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Nick Lo wrote: Hello all, Ok this is my first fully CSS based site (still work in progress by the way) and I first of all want to give credit to Russ's great tutorial at: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/ I'm a little concerne

Re: [WSG] [CSS] IE6 header issue.

2004-03-20 Thread James Ellis
Nick Do you have a URL? Cheers James Nick Lo wrote: Hello all, Ok this is my first fully CSS based site * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to t

RE: [WSG] [CSS] IE6 header issue.

2004-03-20 Thread Peter Firminger
The address is? P > Hello all, > > Ok this is my first fully CSS based site (still work in > progress by the > way) and I first of all want to give credit to Russ's great * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webst

Re: [WSG] [CSS] IE6 header issue.

2004-03-20 Thread russ weakley
> So a BIG thanks to Russ and I know it's kind of late but if you have > any objections to the similarities please let me know so we can "rejig". > No objections to any of my templates being used partially or fully. They were put online to be used and/or abused as needed :) Russ **

Re: [WSG] [CSS] IE6 header issue.

2004-03-20 Thread Nick Lo
Dear me, little obvious that I've been slogging through this to the point of eye twitching...the URL is: http://www.amcs.org.au ...and thanks again Russ, Nick No objections to any of my templates being used partially or fully. They were put online to be used and/or abused as needed :) Russ

RE: [WSG] [CSS] IE6 header issue.

2004-03-20 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Nick Lo wrote: > http://www.amcs.org.au > the header text in IE6 which should appear > as white as it does in IE 5.5 down. I Hi Nick Try this 'Holly' hack, named after Holly Bergevin /* Hide from IE5-mac \*/ * html div#header { height:1% } /* End hide from IE5-mac */ All IE versions

RE: [WSG] [CSS] IE6 header issue.

2004-03-20 Thread Jeff - Accessibility 1st
Hi Nick Try: H1 {position: relative;} This might help; I came up against the same problem in IE6 and found that this fixed the problem. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Lo Sent: Sunday, 21 March 2004 4:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECT