Re: [WSG] Trimming the fat from CSS

Yeah pretty well what I was thinking I mean in practice CSS files are often shared and the very process of using CSS based layouts v's tables already trims a huge load off the page size anyway. It just seemed almost scarily ...thorough... to be trimming the stylesheet in this way as well. Thou

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

theGrafixGuy wrote: I always use instead of , instead of , red or #F00 I always thought , and "red" were bad coding practice - b / i are deprecated and colours should be absolutely defined.. ? Sure you save a few bytes, but connections are only getting faster, and correct display is more

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

What is good coding practice about wasting a byte? You may say its only a byte, but multiply that one byte by 25 on a style sheet and multiply that by a few thousand hits and you are talking bandwidth! Good coding practice is for classroom, real world you want lean with as little waste as possib

RE: [WSG] Trimming the fat from CSS

> Nick Lo wrote: > Does everyone else on the list do this? > For the sake of 11k that is cached on the first page load it seems a > little drastic I would agree its not going to save much, having readable code is much more important, I wonder if people who do this also remove all spaces/tabs withi

RE: [WSG] Trimming the fat from CSS

Any web server worth it's salt will gzip compress static files, which makes trimming all the whitespace a bit pointless. Ditto with any crazy-assed class naming scheme you come up with to make things smaller. I learnt most of what I know about HTML, CSS & JS from viewing the source of pages that

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

Jackie Reid said: >http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/juganaut.html >http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/index.html I love the site - very nicely done. I ran it through Opera 5/6/7, Moz Firebird, Netscape 6/7 and IE6 and it looks fine in all of them - some sli

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

theGrafixGuy said, You do not need the “;” after the last attribute in each style I know this is technically true (browsers will accept it) but I understood that good coding practice is to put the semicolon even after the last attribute. Anyone else know anything about this? -Hugh Todd ***

[WSG] Trimming the fat from CSS

Does everyone else on the list do this? For the sake of 11k that is cached on the first page load it seems a little drastic. I do programming work as well as markup and the indentation/formatting of the code is very important in producing readable code. If it was only me looking at the CSS then

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

Yep - one of the tools I use! -Original Message- From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please theGrafixGuy said: >Once all done remove all spaces between the commas and the semi

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

Kay Smoljak said: > I have two stylesweepers set up - one for "readable" > (nice spacing etc) and one for "production" (every > extra space removed). One click (ok, maybe two) > and your css is transformed... Jackie Reid said: > Good grief.. thats amazing!!! Thanks a bundle Kay. No worries. It'

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

Sort of, but even leaner bacon is :   p{text-align:justify;line-height:130%;font-size:75%;margin: 0 0 10px 0}div#quote{background-color: #e2dfd5; width: 181px;display: block;margin-top: 5px}   Chops out the spaces, the return and the last “;” in the first line. Also, if you know the thr

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

Kay Smoljak said> I have two stylesweepers set up - one for "readable" (nice spacing etc) and one for "production" (every extra space removed). One click (ok, maybe two) and your css is transformed... Good grief.. thats amazing!!! Thanks a bundle Kay. - Original Message - From: "Kay Smo

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

GraphixGuydo you mean this...?   p {text-align:justify;line-height:130%;font-size:75%;margin: 0 0 10px 0;} div#quote {background-color: #e2dfd5; width: 181px;display: block;margin-top: 5px}     - Original Message - From: theGrafixGuy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thur

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

theGrafixGuy said: >Once all done remove all spaces between the commas and the semi-colons and >remove the rest of the returns and have one LONG line - all of these >together will trim A LOT off the size of the stylesheet - mine by itself in >a editing state with comments is over 18k but the versio

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

Title: Message Jackie, i'm using ie6 on winxp, and one thing i noticed was that you need to include border sizes on your navigation links (all except the top section), to avoid it all jumping around on hover. i *hate* when that happens ;)   because you're adding borders in when i hover, you s

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

Looks good overall thought you have a at least one spelling error - ability to life the 1kg load – should be lift I would think.   Anyway as for your CSS, you have a lot of fat that can be trimmed from that as well (no need to repeat the font families if ya put them in the body style)

[WSG] Constructive Criticism please

Hi all...   if anyone has the time or the inclination could they please have a decko at these pages and give me some constructive criticism... like does it work at your end, any coding blunders etc! before i go at it hammer and tongs and start filling the content in. (have validated it ok)  

Re: [WSG] Brisbane WSG is about to start

> The first Brisbane meeting is set for: > Wednesday 12th May > Networking: 6:30pm > Official start: 7:00pm The venue is the conference room of ABN AMRO Morgans (level 29, 129 Eagle Street, Brisbane City - Riverside Centre). This is a fully equipped room with projector, internet connected PC, why

Re: [WSG] Does Microsoft care about Webmasters?

From the brand new Microsoft forum: Does Microsoft care about Webmasters? :)) Tonico Someone, I think it was John Allsop at the recent Melbourne WSG meeting said, and Im paraphrasing here, "M$ cares about it's clients and those clients are IB

[WSG] Does Microsoft care about Webmasters?

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[WSG] UK Disability Rights Commission web accessibility report

Not strictly a web-standards issue, but... The DRC (Disability Rights Commission) today published their long awaited report into UK web accessibility issues. http://www.drc-gb.org/publicationsandreports/report.asp Malarkey www.malarkey.co.uk www.karova.com ***

Re: [WSG] Brisbane WSG is about to start

Of course that address should really be [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I'm sure you all knew that. :) Russ > Do you live in another city or country and want to set up a WSG meeting? > Email Peter and I offlist: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] * The discussion list

[WSG] Brisbane WSG is about to start

First of all, a big thanks to Gary Menzel and Lea de Groot, who have agreed to become the official Brisbane WSG organisers. The first Brisbane meeting is set for: Wednesday 12th May Networking: 6:30pm Official start: 7:00pm We will have an exciting guest presenter for the evening - Tony Aslett -

RE: [WSG] Valid Flash... (Out of office)

Sorry, I'm away Thurs AM for study. I will read your email when I return. Many thanks, Leon Wild. >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 04/14/04 18:39 >>> > From: Nick Lo [...] > Isn't the point being made though that in order to use Flash in pages > and still have them validate requires the use of what a

RE: [WSG] Valid Flash...

> From: Nick Lo [...] > Isn't the point being made though that in order to use Flash in pages > and still have them validate requires the use of what are essentially > hacks. No, what it means is that some tricks need to be used in order to get consistent cross-browser rendering of flash as an