Re: [WSG] off topic, but needed. are there any struts users?

2004-08-20 Thread Ben Bishop
Ted, [WSG] off topic, but needed. are there any struts users? I just wanted to know if there are any struts users that could answer a question for me off the list. Forgive me if you've already exhausted these channels, but have you tried asking your Struts questions where they would be

RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

2004-08-20 Thread Nick Cowie
Cameron wrote: Did we resolve whether Australian legislation has the potential for similar effects? Have you forgotten Sydney Olympics web site, it was 4 years ago the Human Rights Commission awarded A$20,000 compensation in the Maguire vs. SOCOG case. You can find it all here:

RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

2004-08-20 Thread Cameron Adams
Ah, I was under the impression that that was pertaining to Government sites. -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com --- Nick Cowie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cameron wrote: Did we resolve whether Australian legislation has the potential for similar effects? Have you forgotten Sydney

Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

2004-08-20 Thread Neerav
The more salient question would be whether corporates can be forced to do so in australia, as SOCOG was a government corporation. AFAIK whether australian corporates can be forced to comply to W3C/accessibility guidelines is untested in the courts. -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web

Re: [WSG] cutoff bug in Safari?

2004-08-20 Thread Kay Smoljak
Cool, thanks Phillipe! That fixes it. it is a bit the same as this problem http://dev.l-c-n.com/safari/duplicate_float.php I did think that I was using position:relative for a reason though... I think it was so I could absolutely position child elements. Hmmm... I'll have to check all the

Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

2004-08-20 Thread russ - maxdesign
And of course, Bruce Maguire (the guy who sued SOCOG) will be speaking about accessibility and legal implications for Australian Developers at the upcoming September WE04 conference. :) Russ Have you forgotten Sydney Olympics web site, it was 4 years ago the Human Rights Commission awarded

: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

2004-08-20 Thread anhogan
This is good info: http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/standards/www_3/www_3.html Also I spoke to someone from there and they said it had implications for any company etc providing information or a service on a Internet or Intranet site (in Australia). From: russ - maxdesign [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

2004-08-20 Thread Joe Leech
Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites pedantry Shouldn't that be inaccessible? /pedantry ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards,

[WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer

2004-08-20 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge
Hello fellow members of the Web Standards Group! I'm trying to work out a centered layout with header, 2 columns and a footer. The background picture is suppose 2 follow the content right down to the footer, but appearently the float-property 'end' the pagewidth-div(sidebredde) at the end of the

RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

2004-08-20 Thread Geoff Deering
-Original Message- From: Neerav sites The more salient question would be whether corporates can be forced to do so in australia, as SOCOG was a government corporation. AFAIK whether australian corporates can be forced to comply to W3C/accessibility guidelines is untested in the

[WSG] Interesting link on Accessibility in the UK

2004-08-20 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: Message I heard about this on a radio campaign they're running ahead of the new laws on accessibility and disabled rights in general in the UK; http://www.drc-gb.org Jamie Mason: Design// Skysports.com, Central House, Beckwith Knowle, Otley Road, Harrogate, HG3 1UF T: (01423) 700849

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2004-08-20 Thread Daniel Wagner-Hall
Help wsg --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.740 / Virus Database: 494 - Release Date: 16/08/2004 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud

Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer

2004-08-20 Thread mugur
Siteman DA - Bent Inge wrote: Hello fellow members of the Web Standards Group! I'm trying to work out a centered layout with header, 2 columns and a footer. The background picture is suppose 2 follow the content right down to the footer, but appearently the float-property 'end' the

Re: [WSG] Valid Flash state of play

2004-08-20 Thread Eileen Russell
for another point of view here's a link tothe Flash gurus at the Flashnewbie list http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/ they're extremely knowledgeable when it comes to Flash ByteDreams - Original Message - From: David McKinnon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17,

Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer

2004-08-20 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge
Thanks mugur! That helped a lot :-) Now the page displays correct in all the mensioned browsers. http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted Best regards, Bent Inge - Original Message - From: mugur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:25

RE: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer

2004-08-20 Thread Ted Drake
That's a nice site. I like the combination of bevels and drop shadows. They are subtle enough to give dimension without being overwhelming. As a photographer, I tend to notice and get bugged by sites that have multiple light sources, i.e. shadows coming from top, left, right, ... I noticed

Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer

2004-08-20 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge
Thank you, Ted :-) If you're referring to the outline 'shadows' that is actually suppose to be some kind of a beveleffect to give the impression of an elevated content area. I might not have succeded ;-) Thanks again, I wish U and all the members of the web standards group a great weekend! Bent

Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

2004-08-20 Thread Mordechai Peller
Hill, Tim wrote: Wow, that's big, can't believe they had to pay $40,000 that's huge. Relative to the size of the companies, it's not that big; however, it is big enough not to ignore and for other companies to sit up and take notice. The bottom line is that this could be very good for

[WSG] Probs with IE behaviour of height attribute of boxes

2004-08-20 Thread Dietmar Albers
Title: Nachricht Hi @llz, Take a look at the problem at www.albruco.com/erbguth. The corresponding stylesheet will be here www.albruco.com/erbguth/style.css. You see, in IE the horizontal 'box', which should be displayed as a line and it's height is defind to 1px, appears terrible. This

AW: [WSG] Probs with IE behaviour of height attribute of boxes

2004-08-20 Thread Dietmar Albers
Title: Nachricht Sorry, the link to the css should be: www.albruco.com/erbguth/css/main.css '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

[WSG] North Alabama gig

2004-08-20 Thread Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
I got an email from a friend at Intergraph Public Safety in Huntsville AL (USA) who was looking for people with HTML, XML, CSS, and VBScript(!) skills to work on getting their customers configured and teaching those customers how to reconfigure their systems on a product which I surmise from

Re: [WSG] Probs with IE behaviour of height attribute of boxes

2004-08-20 Thread Ben Bishop
You see, in IE the horizontal 'box', which should be displayed as a line and it's height is defind to 1px, appears terrible. This problem ONLY exists in IE. Any ideas? I can confirm it looks terrible in IE, though it appears almost as ghastly in Firefox. Maybe it's the colour #f0 ?