Re: [WSG] web accessibility toolbar

2005-08-29 Thread heretic
Hi there, I ask the question partly tongue-in-cheek, but it does make me wonder iftools such as this should be the butt of responsibility? No, I'd say tools like this are workarounds for the failings of the native browser. You certainly can't start using pixels for sizing just because a user *cou

RE: [WSG] Fix for min-max in IE

2005-08-29 Thread Rebecca Cox
Nasty – I’ve had this happen too;o. I think we picked one as it was OK to do either min or max width but not both.   Maybe try giving IE the max-width with your script and then getting a fake min-width in there with something that’s the min width you want?? (like a spacer gif in an old

RE: [WSG] Fix for min-max in IE

2005-08-29 Thread Chris Hardy
I use conditional comments in the header to serve up IE-only stylesheets - and the m$ "dynamic expressions" properties to emulate min-width and max-width. For example, for a page that I've got wrapped in a containing div named wrapper, I use this in my ie.css #wrapper { width:expression( void

Re: [WSG] Online Resources for HTML Beginners

2005-08-29 Thread heretic
Hi, http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/ http://validator.w3.org/ I'm all for teaching students how to look up the answer, but in this case I also recommend they read http://www.alistapart.com/articles/readspec/ first so they have a better chance of understanding the answers :) I've never found a "standards

[WSG] Fix for min-max in IE

2005-08-29 Thread Rachel Radford
Hi all, We have just launched a site (www.eastwoodhill.org.nz) but have received feedback that IE for windows is crashing!!!  We have figured out that it is a bit of _javascript_ making it crash – this bit of _javascript_ mimicks the CSS min-max behaviour that is needed for the navigation

Re: [WSG] Online Resources for HTML Beginners

2005-08-29 Thread Nick Gleitzman
Mordechai Peller wrote: In general, you should recommend that they examine the code of well written, semantically correct pages. Sure, but first you have to teach them to recognise such things... N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ **

RE: [WSG] Online Resources for HTML Beginners

2005-08-29 Thread ByteDreams
I try to keep my list updated here at my MSN Group. I have lists for CSS and HTML and other stuff. You're welcome to browse the lists and even join if you like... http://groups.msn.com/HTMLWebDesignDreamers/htmlxhtmltutorials.msnw Eileen Russell http://www.bytedreams.com -Original Messag

Re: [WSG] Online Resources for HTML Beginners

2005-08-29 Thread Mordechai Peller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm confident in teaching them the *absolute* basics, but if the people in the class want to go on to be coders, which online resources would you recommend? http://htmldog.com is a good site. In general, you should recommend that they examine the code of well writte

RE: [WSG] Online Resources for HTML Beginners

2005-08-29 Thread Peter Williams
John Horner wrote: > Just to note that we've got fourteen posts and only three > recommendations of online resources... I'm not sure if a downloadable PDF qualifies as an "online" resource, but Jeffrey Veen has the proof of his "Art and science of web design" available for download. The book is fi

RE: [WSG] Controlling the gap?

2005-08-29 Thread Janelle Clemens
Thanks Kenny.    That sounds like a good solution.   I'll give that a try.   :-) Janelle   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenny GrahamSent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:26 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] Controlling the gap? 1) remove the bu

Re: [WSG] Controlling the gap?

2005-08-29 Thread Kenny Graham
1) remove the bullet with list-style: none 2) create an image of a bullet 3) set that image as the background image (non-repeating) of the 4) adjust left padding of the to set distance from the fake bullet

Re: [WSG] Controlling the gap?

2005-08-29 Thread Kenny Graham
you can have negative margins, but not negative padding.  http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/box.html#padding-properties >Use padding >example: >ul li {padding-left: 5px;} > >that should helpcan use negative amounts

RE: [WSG] Controlling the gap?

2005-08-29 Thread Janelle Clemens
I tried that but it made more space. I tried negative but only margin seems to like negative numbers, padding ignores negative numbers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Watkins Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:07 PM To: wsg@webstanda

Re: [WSG] Controlling the gap?

2005-08-29 Thread Kenny Graham
easiest (and as far as i know, the only non-proprietay way) of doing it is to use a non-repeating background image on the instead of a bullet, and control the spacing from it with padding.

Re: [WSG] Controlling the gap?

2005-08-29 Thread Neal Watkins
Use padding example: ul li {padding-left: 5px;} that should helpcan use negative amounts Quoting Janelle Clemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Is there anyway to control the space between the bullet and text of an ? Our designer is having issues with this and since I am in charge of creating the t

[WSG] Controlling the gap?

2005-08-29 Thread Janelle Clemens
Is there anyway to control the space between the bullet and text of an ? Our designer is having issues with this and since I am in charge of creating the templates I need to find a workaround. Thanks, Janelle ** The discussion list for http://we

RE: [WSG] Online Resources for HTML Beginners

2005-08-29 Thread Jonathan Bloy
On August 28, 2005 10:11 PM John Horner wrote: >Just to note that we've got fourteen posts and only three >recommendations of online resources... While not strictly for beginners, when I was starting out I found reading more advanced articles at http://www.alistapart.com helped me improve my under

[WSG] Yes, one more open window thing. but wait, this is one to read

2005-08-29 Thread Drake, Ted C.
No to toot my own horn, but I just uploaded a new post to my web site that summarizes the to open or not to open a new window debate that we had on this list a week or so ago. http://www.tdrake.net List member Thierry went above and beyond the call of duty to update a script he had previous

Re: WORK-A-ROUND: [WSG] Max / min-width issue IE6

2005-08-29 Thread David Laakso
Jacobus van Niekerk wrote: Just did a bit more testing and found this css to do the job for me! I think this is a "ok" solution to use, since the css code is only for IE. * html #cont { /* IE Dynamic Expression to set the width */ width:expression(document.body.clientWidth <= 1024 ? "800px"

Re: [WSG] another 'open new window' dilemma

2005-08-29 Thread Tom Livingston
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 00:13:16 -0400, tee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi accessible care takers, In light of this recent discussion, I offer this, if you haven't already read it (or already know this info): http://www.useit.com/alertbox/open_new_windows.html -- Tom Livingston Senior Multime

Re: [WSG] Max / min-width issue IE6

2005-08-29 Thread Oa Berg
Jacobus van Niekerk wrote: Here is just a few thoughts: 1. use a space gif after the footer. 2. use JavaScript to read width of screen and update css accord. 3. use inline css and server-side code to update the inline css. Hi Jacobus, take a look at http://www.doxdesk.com/software/js/minmax.ht

WORK-A-ROUND: [WSG] Max / min-width issue IE6

2005-08-29 Thread Jacobus van Niekerk
Just did a bit more testing and found this css to do the job for me! I think this is a "ok" solution to use, since the css code is only for IE. * html #cont { /* IE Dynamic Expression to set the width */ width:expression(document.body.clientWidth <= 1024 ? "800px" : "1024px" ); border: 1px

[WSG] Max / min-width issue IE6

2005-08-29 Thread Jacobus van Niekerk
Any ideas, I have the following css: #testdiv { min-width: 800px !important; max-width: 1024px !important; border: 1px solid red; margin: 0 auto; text-align:right; } Firefox does 100% what it's suppose to do. It gives the #testdiv a min-width of 800px, so

Re: [WSG] vCard and Webforms

2005-08-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Juha-Markku Liikala wrote: I hope this isn't too much off topic. Has anyone implemented a drag-and-drop vCard functionality in a webform (draggin your vCard to the form automatically fills in your name and adress, phonenumber and so on)? I've heard about this kind of forms but I've never seen one

Re: [WSG] vCard and Webforms

2005-08-29 Thread Ben Ward
I'm not convinced that it can be done exactly as you describe. Browsers - Mozilla for sure - have restrictions on what you can do with external files - especially drag+drop. For example, the reason you can't drag-and-drop a file onto a 'file' form control in Firefox is because this would make it s

[WSG] vCard and Webforms

2005-08-29 Thread Juha-Markku Liikala
Hi, I hope this isn't too much off topic. Has anyone implemented a drag-and-drop vCard functionality in a webform (draggin your vCard to the form automatically fills in your name and adress, phonenumber and so on)? I've heard about this kind of forms but I've never seen one. I'm planning to try t