Well, I started with Dreamweaver's design view, since, that was what I was
thought. My first site was a table crap :) I didn't know what was going on.
I decided to learn the nuts & bolts of HTML. My next site was table based
but with a valid code.
Then, I joined various lists, communities and saw
>Don't believe everything you read on the Internet!
...
>Things change
... yes, well, I do realise that.
The point is, that a newbie was directed to this resource, and it's clearly
outdated (and it made me do a double-take when I read it). I didn't want
her to go there, read that, and go "what
Hello All -
I've got an icon set as a background image within a span element which shows
up as expected in FF, but vanishes under IE7.
First, go here with FF:
http://www.koisis.com/.clients/asdem/dev/index.php?cmd=004004
Under FireFox, you'll see the little question-mark icon in the line under
Robert -
Thanks for the legend fix: perfect!
No hits on the vanishing span icon so I'm re-posting that under an amended
title. Thanks very much for the help with the Legend!
Cole
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Quite sure this was written when xhtml seemed to be the only way forward
as xhtml 2 was the only thing being developed.
Things change.
fry
Christian Montoya wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:28 PM, rch lib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
I took a look at that Drew Mclellan article. He says
Seconded ... (or 10th, whatever!)
You (one) really have to be able to handcode. I use Dreamweaver but I always
have it open in both views, never just the design view, and I frequently
swap into the code view only and work on it that way. It¹s the only way to
see what¹s going on, and fix up things
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:28 PM, rch lib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I took a look at that Drew Mclellan article. He says:
>
> "Step 3: Future-proof your site with XHTML
> HTML has reached the end of its life and is no longer being developed as a
> mark-up language. Its replacement is Exte
That is most definitely incorrect. HTML5 is in development as we speak.
HTML is far from the end of it's life.
rch lib wrote:
Hi,
I took a look at that Drew Mclellan article. He says:
"Step 3: Future-proof your site with XHTML
HTML has reached the end of its life and is no longer being develo
Hi,
I took a look at that Drew Mclellan article. He says:
"Step 3: Future-proof your site with XHTML
HTML has reached the end of its life and is no longer being developed as a
mark-up language. Its replacement is Extensible HTML (XHTML)an
implementation of XML that works in all browsers, old and
Thanks a lot Andrew!
Kate
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From: Andrew Maben
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] First Attempt
On Nov 24, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
Hopefully this can get back on web standards topic...
Thanks Bruce
Agree BOT, I can now from the help get learning.
Thankyou!
Kate
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To:
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] First Attempt
kate wrote:
Thanks Hassan,
I am trying to create with notepad the images
On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 10:24 -0500, Brett Patterson wrote:
> I have no idea why, but for some reason I cannot remember which is
> read first! Are scripts or styles read first?
As others have mentioned, they are read in the order they occur in the
document.
> And which is the recommended order to
On Nov 24, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
Hopefully this can get back on web standards topic...
...might be a good moment to remember a previous thread re: standards
and swf. I'm sorry not to remember who provided this link, but I've
found it invaluable:
http://www.alistapart.com/articl
kate wrote:
Thanks Hassan,
I am trying to create with notepad the images are fine as is the text but
testing a swf which refuses to show anything but a white space. I believe
there is a problem with swf in IE and FF.
All good things come to those that wait so they tell me. Everyone has been
Thanks Hassan,
I am trying to create with notepad the images are fine as is the text but
testing a swf which refuses to show anything but a white space. I believe
there is a problem with swf in IE and FF.
All good things come to those that wait so they tell me. Everyone has been
very kind sin
Hya Ron,
Thanks for the link to Opera, I did dl the software two weeks ago and have
an Opera blog but don't have time to do much with it. The link will be great
though.
At this moment I am trying to understand by looking at the code why my swf
works just fine in Swish and DW but is a white
Wow Bruce,
I transferred my code from Dreamweaver to Notepad gave it the .index.html
and bingo even images..wow my giddy aunt I am amazed.
lolol
Positive from this is no upgrades for Dreamweaver.
Kate
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From: "Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, November 2
kate,
thought i'd throw in my two cents.
firstly i was in your position a couple years ago, using dreamweaver.
at a certain point i realized i didn't know what i was doing or what
was going wrong when things didn't view properly. i hadn't heard
anything about box models, didn't know what pa
kate wrote:
Wow Bruce,
I transferred my code from Dreamweaver to Notepad gave it the .index.html
and bingo even images..wow my giddy aunt I am amazed.
lolol
Positive from this is no upgrades for Dreamweaver.
Kate
"wow my giddy aunt I am amazed."
This statement is destined to go down in W
Kate wrote:
Wow! You hand code.
You realize many people started developing web sites before anything
like DreamWeaver even existed -- when the *only* option was opening
up a file in vi or emacs or whatever text editor and "hand coding"?
It's not rocket science, honest. And the sooner you thro
kate wrote:
Thanks Bruce,
Best viewed lolol was funny to read because about three years ago someone
created an awesome site for me with Wordpress. He worked the China Red
theme and wrote nin the sidebar best viewed in IE5 or higher.
I never knew then about testing in different browsers and
Thanks Bruce,
Best viewed lolol was funny to read because about three years ago someone
created an awesome site for me with Wordpress. He worked the China Red theme
and wrote nin the sidebar best viewed in IE5 or higher.
I never knew then about testing in different browsers and I really don't
Andrew November 24, 2008 10:59 AM
On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Kate wrote:
Wow! You hand code
For now, and I think, the foreseeable future, this is still the only
way available if you want to get it right...
...although its a long road
Yes it is! But worth it, and if you start simply, a
quote Todd As someone who hasn't opened dreamweaver in years and codes css
and xhtml by hand
end quote
Wow! You hand code. Well Todd I salute you. Thanks for the feedback and advice
and although its a long road I am not afraid to try what I have set out to
achieve given time.
There is a lot of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I remember rightly if you are able to save the image with a
transparent background it keeps the file size lower because a
transparent pixel takes less space than a pixel with colour
information.
It may be possible to get better compression on a file that con
Hi Brett,
Yes, I have sen the starter pages , thanks. I also like the 3 column left nav
because remember that awesome menu that Macromedia did? Well, you get that with
that 3 column.
I know you can buy it from Adobe too. Now the starter pages and the page
designs CSS I was never sure if we coul
As someone who has read the post, in Dreamweaver 8, to follow along with
Todd's statement, choose (File --> New) and under the General tab choose
Starter Pages. You may choose from the list DW8 has. The rest I agree with.
Try learning some of the code from the pre-existing sites, modify one
section
On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Kate wrote:
Wow! You hand code
For now, and I think, the foreseeable future, this is still the only
way available if you want to get it right...
...although its a long road
Yes it is! But worth it, and if you start simply, and follow the
excellent advice that
Thanks for the links Peter,
Kate
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From: "Peter Mount" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Sorry Link
Hi
You might want to look at this tutorial by Drew Mclellan at:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/extreme/f
Brett Patterson wrote:
I have no idea why, but for some reason I cannot remember which is
read first! Are scripts or styles read first? And which is the
recommended order to list them? Styles or Scripts first?
--
Brett P.
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Brett Patterson wrote:
> I have no idea why, but for some reason I cannot remember which is read
> first! Are scripts or styles read first? And which is the recommended
> order to list them? Styles or Scripts first?
They are read in whatever ever the browser reaches them.
Scripts pause parsing of
Yes, and colors in a row or horizontal line, so to speak, compress better
depending on the compression mechanism. Just say that jpeg files
read/compress horizontal, and gif files read/compress vertical, not sure if
that is exactly correct, just an example. But iii (if the size is 1
pixel wide f
I have no idea why, but for some reason I cannot remember which is read
first! Are scripts or styles read first? And which is the recommended order
to list them? Styles or Scripts first?
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> If I remember rightly if you are able to save the image with a
> transparent background it keeps the file size lower because a
> transparent pixel takes less space than a pixel with colour
> information.
It may be possible to get better compression on a file that contains
lots of pixels of
Hi Rachel,
Many thanks for your positive imput which gives me some incentive to carry
this through. I have listened, looked and watch for answers to questions on
one or two lists and feel maybe I am ready to wet toes (not feet yet) and
venture into Web design to see how my first one goes.
I n
As someone who hasn't opened dreamweaver in years and codes css and
xhtml by hand, but learned to build websites in Dreamweaver, I would
say Rachel's approach might be difficult for some. This being your
first website Kate, I would say to use some of the better tools
Dreamweaver offers and
On Nov 24, 2008, at 12:13 AM, Andrew R wrote:
Can anyone give me some pointers, do have something that works in
your organsiation, etc?
I'm afraid I can't offer help, just let you know I'm another
companion in pain. This is a problem that seems to be almost
universal, in organizations lar
Here I am writing from the other side of the fence.
I find that some of the barriers to communication are rooted in the two
different 'cultures' of the two streams.
I recently had to work with a admittedly junior web developer to upgrade
static HTML pages associated with a web application whi
Hi Kate,
For a first webpage you're doing pretty well - you have some images
there and have changed the background colour and text colour on the
page.
However, using the Dreamweaver design view approach will not give you
the best end results, or teach you the best practices. Peter's link
gives y
Hello Peter,
I followed with another messge for the link but here it is:
http://www.jungaling.com/katalinadesigns/index.html
Sorry.!
Kate
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From: "Peter Mount" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] First Attempt
Hi
Wha
Check out
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/sprites
and
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/sprites2
I think this what your trying to achieve, or at least close to either
one of those articles.
I haven't played much with horizontal sprite images, but usually use
vertical ones, and I have
tee wrote:
I am trying to optimize a site, though the file sizes of the overall
images aren't so much of a problem but the http requests. So I am
attempting to put 10 icons in one gif file, the individual icon size
is merely 600b and the dimension is 18px by 12px.
I made a 18px by 150px to ho
Hi
You might want to look at this tutorial by Drew Mclellan at:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/extreme/five_steps.html
You don't need DreamWeaver to do it.
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Web Development for Business
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On 24/11/2008, at 10
http://www.jungaling.com/katalinadesigns/index.html
Thanks, sorry I forgot the link in my earlier mail.
Kate
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What's the url?
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On 24/11/2008, at 9:55 PM, kate wrote:
Hello,
My first attempt at Web design but only first step to any design and
wondered what you think so far as to:
Top menu/
Hello,
My first attempt at Web design but only first step to any design and
wondered what you think so far as to:
Top menu/color/images/table/..gently *grin
In IE the page color is white so need to find how to get the correct color.
This color works in FF ok - #172228
I am working in DW8 on
Cole Kuryakin wrote:
Hello All -
...
First, go here with FF:
http://www.koisis.com/.clients/asdem/dev/index.php?cmd=004004
You'll notice in the UL a heading called "Getting Help". In that the single
LI that follows there's a little question-mark icon (which sit's in a span
tag). That's the way
Hello All -
Got a project that's set for deployment Dec 1 and was just cleaning up a few
bits and pieces when I noticed a few small anomalies that - after hours of
trying - I can't figure out.
First, go here with FF:
http://www.koisis.com/.clients/asdem/dev/index.php?cmd=004004
You'll notice in
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