Re: [WSG] IE Hack wrecks IE 5.01 design

An easier hack for versions of IE is: #element { width: 100px; /* all browsers get */ width/**/: 80px; /* all except IE 5.0 get */ w\idth: 60px; /* all except IE 5.x get */ } -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com --- Andreas Boehmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just realised that t

Re: [WSG] modify styles for smaller screen resolutions

Resolution dependent layout: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/09/21/ -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com --- Cade Whitbourn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm experimenting with using javascript to write in > alternate style > information into the body of my webpages

Re: [WSG] Applications that don't open in a new window

Opening a window without navigation elements doesn't actually stop you from going back in the browser's history. You can either: A. Hit the backspace button to go "back" B. Right-click and choose "back" -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com --- Priscilla Brice-Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for John Allsopp

Trust soft Australian journalists not to ask the tough questions, such as how much drug consumption was going on backstage at WE04 prior to the WWWF smackdown. -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com --- John Allsopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John, > > > > Included in the "more", by the way? Thi

Re: [WSG] 6 days of WSG meeting frenzy

Wait a minute! You guys get cake!? C'mon Dez, step up the catering! :o] -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com --- Lea de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 22:22:39 +1000, russ - maxdesign > wrote: > > The three city WSG meetings have almost aligned, > like some freaky > > as

Re: [WSG] Semantics of Breadcrumb "you are here" links

Would you be able to enumerate each point in your reply? I wasn't able to follow the structure of it. Sincerely, -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com --- russ - maxdesign <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > er, maybe it's my 'listless' disposition but why > would you put a > > breadcrumb in a list? T

Re: [WSG] Zeroing default padding/margin

I think this is a strong argument for introducing this technique to others. The most oft-cited reason for not using semantic HTML is the perceived control that can be achieved by using tables/a lot of divs. By removing this "mystery" dimension from the size of elements, it could help people to bec

Re: [WSG] start attribute deprecated in XHTML 1.0 Strict and up.

I ran into this same problem the other, but forgot to research it. How, then, are we meant to start an ordered list at a number other than 1? -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Nick Lo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was looking at some data of the form: > &

Re: [WSG] Fix a mac bug, get the peekaboo bug on the PC

mport. -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Jason Bayly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Leslie/All do u know of a way to stop this from > occuring? > > On the mac IE5.2/1 im getting the text wrap bug with > my tags.. The > documented fix is to add position:relative; to

Re: [WSG] Joe does Oz

Yeah, a few 8:30AM beers would go down nicely ;o] -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Mark Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Joe > > Good to see you on the list. > > I'll also be speaking at the conference - thrilling > the audience with &

Re: [WSG] Mac (Safari) rendering of colours

Thanks for the help everyone. It's a little easier to handle now I know it's a browser bug, not a platform issue. -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Philippe Wittenbergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 16, 2004, at 1:31 pm, Cameron Adams wrote: > >

[WSG] Mac (Safari) rendering of colours

, where the CSS background-color differs from the JPEG background image on Mac, but looks fine on PC. If anyone knows a solution it would be much appreciated. -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register onlin

Re: [WSG] commonly used order of styles within a css class

to have an order independent of the HTML content, such as alphabetical. -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Brian Duchek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm 100% with Andy on this one. My coding style (pun > intended) usually > falls into the source ordered a

Re: [WSG] commonly used order of styles within a css class

I normally use the box model in combination with background to foreground layering to order my styles: - display - positioning - margin - border - padding - background - foreground (text) -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know

Re: [WSG] list of well constructed websites

http://www.webstandardsawards.com/ -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com --- Roland Munyard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > motivated by the recent email about > http://www.chevrolet.com is there an up to date > list of well constructed websites that use CSS. - Roly

RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

Ah, I was under the impression that that was pertaining to Government sites. -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com --- Nick Cowie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cameron > wrote: > > > Did we resolve whether Australian legislation has > the > > potential for similar effects? > > Have you forgott

Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

Wow, that's big. Did we resolve whether Australian legislation has the potential for similar effects? -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com --- Ben Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 19 Aug 2004 - The Attorney General of New York has > deemed parts of > Ramada.com and Priceline.com inaccessible

Re: [WSG] Form labels

http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/03/24/ --- Wasabi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > After completing a form with labels, as suggested in > a usability > guideline I noticed firefox choked on them. None of > the text fields > would populate until I removed the labels fro

[WSG] New Portfolio Site

iting/perspective/2004/07/23/ Plenty of floaty goodness and gracefully degrading JavaScript, so drop by! -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new

Re: [WSG] Blue Moon -- Need help on IE5 Mac Floating

Thank you both Hugh and Philippe. In the MacIE5-specific CSS I can just set it to "clear: none" and it works fine. Thanks! -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Hugh Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cameron, > > Your problem is the "clear" you

Re: [WSG] Blue Moon -- Need help on IE5 Mac Floating

But #content is the parent of the two floated elements, and "clear" rules aren't inherited, so it doesn't affect what's nested. Or is this just a MacIE5 bug? -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Philippe Wittenbergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

[WSG] Blue Moon -- Need help on IE5 Mac Floating

.com.au/dev/dsto/css/macIE5.css Even though I'm using the negative margin technique, the same behaviour occurs when I change the HTML to have the sidebar content before the main content, and only float the sidebar. Any help is much appreciated! Regards, -- Cameron Adams

Re: [WSG] WSG Melbourne: Quick Poll

I think we should hold a Standards-based bikini contest. That notwithstanding, I'd probably go for every 4 weeks, or at least a bit more regularly. -- Cameron --- afdesign <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey there all Melbourne members of this list. > > At the last meeting of the Melbourne WSG, i

Re: [WSG] pixel to ems converter

tal -- the font type has nothing to do with the unit "em" as it relates to CSS. I did whip up a page that shows a rough scale of ems for different browser variables that might help you: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/05/27/ http://www.themaninblue.com/experiment/

Re: [WSG] Ten Questions for whomever

Can we do one of those interviews where I punch the camera, then you chase me to my car? --- Russ Weakley - Maxdesign <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't worry, Man in blue, you are on my "to > interview" list! > :) > Russ > > > I heard he's a J.D. Salinger-type recluse who only > > gives intervie

RE: [WSG] Ten Questions for whomever

I heard he's a J.D. Salinger-type recluse who only gives interviews for six figures. --- Kay Smoljak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you know who I'd like to see interviewed? That Russ > guy who runs that cool > site... > > :) > > -- > Kay Smoljak > Senior Developer/QC Leader/Search Optimisation >

RE: [WSG] accessible and stylish forms

Nah, I reckon it was this one: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/03/24/ P.S. Stop stealing my titles, Andy :p Regards, -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Kat Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This might be the one: > <http://www.aplus

Re: [WSG] javascript form submission

m checking. Ideally: both; minimal: server side. -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- "Todini, Gianfranco (TWIi London)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > This is my first post on this list and I'd like to > say that I find it really > really useful and inte

RE: [WSG] Launched my third xhtml site!!

Can I order a strangulation by proxy? ;o] -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you come to the Web standards meeting tonight you > will have a chance to strangle me, and so will a lot &g

[WSG] Melbourne Meeting - May

Is the Melbourne meeting really May 3? (like it says on the web site) If so, it snuck up quick! -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http

Re: [WSG] A tip on using multiple CSS classes

Lea de Groot wrote: > But I'm happy to bow to your greater knowledge :) Bow to the mighty Russ-o-tron, puny Earthling! ;o] -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo!

[WSG] Melbourne Meeting - May

Is the Melbourne meeting really May 3? (like it says on the web site) If so, it snuck up quick! -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http

Re: [WSG] A tip on using multiple CSS classes

Lea de Groot wrote: > But I'm happy to bow to your greater knowledge :) Bow to the mighty Russ-o-tron, puny Earthling! ;o] -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo!

Re: [WSG] Web Essentials 04

Can I get a dollar discount for every newbie question I answer on this mail list? -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com > > That's gonna have to be one helluva discount! ;) > > -- tim > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 d

RE: [WSG] XHTML Form + Label - Errors

Who's blaming the what now? -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Nick Cowie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and blame Cameron Adams aka the man in blue > http://themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/03/24/ > for my thing with & a couple

Re: [WSG] Relative Fonts

Given the ignorance of some of your users, I'd assume they were using IE. But remember, there's no such thing as fixed font design anymore. Mozilla, Safari et al all resize fonts irrespective of units. -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Gary Menzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] tantek high_pass & @import

I'm sure you can find a hack here: http://centricle.com/ref/css/filters/ -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- 7 sinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > Im wondering if there's a way to block out IE 5 > Windows but not IE5.5? > > At the moment im u

[WSG] Re: List Left Margin

Geeze Russ, aren't you married? http://www.browsercam.com/projects/56771/930830.jpg -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giv

RE: [WSG] WSG Design competition is now open

I'd have thought you'd: - Receive entries - Wait for the deadline - Set up a gallery of said entries - People vote for their favourite one, once only, secretly - Winner takes all Why do you need to see what other people are voting? -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Peter

Re: [WSG] CSS & the Linux documentation project

Well ... you know, the webmonkey.com domain name will be up for grabs soon ... but it's all a bit hush-hush, so shhh ... ;o] -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- russ weakley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, we have seen some amazing stuff come out of > Th

Re: [WSG] CSS & the Linux documentation project

styling most of the pages mentioned, (and the personal sites of some of the commenters) I think that a blind monkey could probably make them look better using only the intersection of all CSS rules that *do* work in every modern browser. -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Mark Stanton

RE: [WSG] How do I start a group in a city

No, really, he isn't! ;o] -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Peter Firminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and I'm not the > socialising type! > > P __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on

[WSG] CSS Form Layout Examples

Hi, You might be interested in some accessible, semantic form layouts I've made: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/03/24 Regards, -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. Fi

[WSG] APC Article on Web Standards

Has anyone read the opinion article in APC Magazine regarding Web Standards? (I haven't) It gets a brief mention here: http://www.apcmag.com/apc/v3.nsf/dir/latest Apparently its a bit scathing of them, but not having read it I can't really comment. -- Cameron Adams W: www.theman

Re: [WSG] Actual page width (was: drop down menus)

640 x 480 seems a bit big, how am I meant to view it on my 320 pixel phone? -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Bernie Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Build you site flexable and not fixed, let it expand > from 640x480 to 1024x768 > > > - Original Me

RE: [WSG] Actual page width (was: drop down menus)

I generally design to 760px width, that gives you a fairly big margin of error. The actual Windows scrollbar is 16px, but it varies across OS/browser, and you also have to think of collapsed side bars, etc. Better to err on the side of narrowness. -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com

Re: [WSG] drop down menus

e a whole lot of areas on the site, then drop downs probably hinder, as they take a while to explore and get used to. -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Universal Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I recently had a client who insisted I implement > drop-down menus for >

[WSG] Melbourne WSG Meeting

Although it mightn't interest the whole list, let me be the first one to congratulate everyone who was involved with the Melbourne meeting, especially our Sydney contingent and the organisers. I wasn't sure what to expect, but John's propensity to argue all things CSS sparked off some great debat

Re: [WSG] Open critique?

Forget CSS Vault, I already awarded it on Web Standards Awards! :-] http://www.webstandardsawards.com/ -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ***

RE: [WSG] Debrief and thanks to Russ & Peter

Hmmm ... those photos are making me re-think going to the Melbourne meeting ;o] -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools *

Re: [WSG] horizontal floated lists

Most of the time I "display: inline" the li's in a horizontal menu. -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools * The

RE: [WSG] Image replace or ALT text?

There's an IR technique with text here: http://levin.grundeis.net/files/20030809/alternatefir.html __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools * The disc

[WSG] Image replace or ALT text?

While reading a comment on Web Standards Awards: http://www.webstandardsawards.com/previous/simple_thinking.html#comments It reminded me as to a point I'd thought about regarding background image replacement. Sure, using a ul with visually hidden text and background images for navigation is sema

Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading...

When you say that www.fhm.lv is a "nice" css site, what exactly do you mean Russ? :oP -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html **

Re: [WSG] Image floating question

Well, it's always going to float to the right of whatever's containing it, so if the container is only set to the browser width (100%) it'll collapse. -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! h

Re: [WSG] Flowchart using CSS

I think it's impossible to do in HTML, there's no way you can model the relationships. You'd need to write your own XML schema to fully encompass everything that needs to be represented, then parse it through some rendering system to make any decent sense out of it. You have to draw a line somew

Re: [WSG] newbie discovers absolute positioning

s when you change text sizes) -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ * The discussion lis

Re: [WSG] A few quick links...

That's probably the most interesting Zen Garden entry I've seen. Something other than just styling of the content. -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ **

Re: [WSG] Background PNGs in IE/Win?

The gray box appears in IE when someone specifies an alpha channel in the PNG -- IE can't handle the transparency, so it renders a gray background. I expect it would be the same with background images. There's an IE 6 workaround to PNG transparency, someone else will have to tell you about it tho

[WSG] Fun with CSS!

{text-align: bottom} got you down? {background-color: #FF} making you feel blue? Then have a game of SSCrabble -- the fun way to pass the time with Web Standards! :o] http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/01/27/ -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com __

Re: [WSG] Definition lists -- mid-weekly challenge

Can't be bothered trying it, but you could float the image left, leave the other elements non-floated, block, with left margins equal to the image width. -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it

Re: [WSG] list-style-types

I just tried setting "vertical-align: middle" on an li. In IE6 it moves it moves the bullet more centrally, in Mozilla and Opera it does nothing, but they're pretty central anyway. You can try all sorts of different values: baseline, text-top, etc. -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com _

[WSG] [OT] Good web host? Mine broke.

Hi, I was in the hunt for a good (cheap) web host. Explanation and replies here: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/01/21/ Thanks, -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing

Re: [WSG] entities

I believe that for quotes it's handy to use the entities because you define proper opening and closing quotes, instead of using the uni-directional default as defined on the keyboard. It's probably safest to use entities in all your text, as then they have no way of conflicting with the actual XH

Re: [WSG] styling hr tags

I'm just thinking that a "separator" in document structure is redundant -- at a structural level, each section should be contained in its own area, be it a , or whatever enclosing form takes your fancy. Then, with such a structure, visually it is extremely easy to delineate as a hr does: bottom-

Re: [WSG] styling hr tags

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[WSG] Alternative liquid layout solution

If you've been following the recent debates over fixed-width versus liquid layout, you might be interested in a true liquid experiment I've put up: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2003/12/22/ Regards, -- Cameron Adams W: www.theman

[WSG] Standards Award Site

Hi, On this page: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2003/12/15/ I discuss my plans for a standards-based awards site. Anyone interested in helping or commenting can do so via the page. Regards, -- Cameron __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - eas

[WSG] Re: px em pt ???

eb page structure to allow for variable text sizes. Hope this helps (and it didn't seem like I was yelling at you), -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com In reply to: (aayyy, my third post today?) I'd like to see what all of yours opinion is on what to use for sizes, I have alwa

[WSG] Do XHTML/CSS web site awards exist?

Web site awards sites now are so cluttered with the latest piece of Flash fluff -- style over design. Are there any XHTML/CSS equivalents that reward the proper design of web sites? -- Cameron __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.ya

[WSG] Hi! www.themaninblue.com

Hi, I was directed to this group by Andrew Fernandez (www.dezwozhere.com) after he visited my new XHTML/CSS site, www.themaninblue.com. So ... u ... hi. Looking forward to getting all standardsy with some locals, instead of reading all those US blogs. -- Cameron Adams