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On 12/2/08 9:55 AM, Rachel May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have a client who requires part of their name to be bolded within the body
text for brand reasons. This I see as decorative, therefore it would not be
correct to strong it...
Do I:
a. Use the b
Thierry wrote (in the linked article, not his post):
DIVs are meaningless and cannot represent the structure of a document
Really?
According to the HTML 3.2 spec, where they first appear:
DIV elements can be used to structure HTML documents as a hierarchy of
divisions.
Al Sparber wrote:
The problem is with the standard. If one gets too hung up on semantic markup
then there is the risk of bending the logical or implied semantics of an
element to suit ones project. I submit that in the absence of a perfectly
specific semantically correct element for a given
Since they're Roman numerals, shouldn't there be a lang=la in there
somewhere?
Geoff.
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Help:
I've been looking around the Opera site, but can't find answers to the
following:
Does Opera on the Wii support handlheld and/or projection stylesheets?
SVG?
Also, is SVG supported on the Nintendo DS browser?
Thanks,
Geoff.
McLaughlin, Gail G wrote:
We always ask the client if they require that the site comply
with accessibility. The response ranges from What is
accessibility? to we'll worry about that later to No!
Why bother asking? You don't need you clients' permission to build a
site properly.
Geoff.
Tony Crockford wrote:
we don't have finders-keepers and it's mine, I saw it first
or give it to me or I'll pull your hair as social rules outside
the playground (and I suspect our educators are doing their best
to change those rules too...)
Well, actually we do. What do you think
AFAIK, the ABC News developers aren't subcribed to this list, but I've
forwarded the feedback here to them.
Cheers,
Geoff Pack
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Sent: Thursday, 28 June 2007 19:12
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re
This will be interesting...
Safari 3 Public Beta:
http://www.apple.com/safari/
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Lucien Stals wrote:
A DIV (and a SPAN for that matter) are purely structural, not
semantic.
The only difference between a div and a span is that one is a block
level
element, and the other is an inline element. Apart from that, they
have
the same semantic meaning, which is none at all.
And
If the image is a map, and you want to link areas of it, then an image
map is the semantically correct solution. Faking them with lists and CSS
is no better than using tables for layout IMHO.
Geoff.
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Robert O'Rourke wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakety_Sax
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tdIs this tabular
Vlad Alexander wrote:
Nancy Johnson wrote:
I believe best practices are to have all images in
a directory entitled images
Hi Nancy,
I would not encourage this practice. There are two types of
images on Web site - site level images (mostly used in page
layout like logos,
Hi Sarah,
I agree with Jay - it should be a nested list, but I'd avoid floats completely
and use absolute positioning to lay it out. I'd also change the nesting to
reflect the org structure, not just the level.
Assuming the managers report to the GM, then:
ul id=orgChart
liMD
Sarah Peeke wrote:
That looks great. I like the idea of the background image, and I
especially like the mugshot! :)
See:
http://www.virtualgeoff.com/misc/orgChart.html
with background image:
http://www.virtualgeoff.com/misc/orgChartB.html
A couple of thoughts:
1. Would it be
Jason Turnbull wrote:
Terrence Wood wrote:
Jakob Nielsen responded to my request for clarification
Jacob has used this request for his latest article
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/within_page_links.html
Regards
Jason
Ignoring the discussion of in-page links and jumping straight
Wow Ted,
This is seriously cool. Haven't looked through it all yet, but I know I'm going
to be using some of this code. The Graded Browser Support page
http://developer.yahoo.net/yui/articles/gbs/gbs.html is particularly relevant
for this forum.
Thanks,
Geoff
Ted Drake wrote:
Hi All
Cade Whitbourn wrote:
Wow. Microsoft are taking very pro-active measures to assist the
developer community in fixing sites for IE7.
I received an email from someone on the 'IE7 compatibility
team' with a
screenshot of our site in IE7 and a list of all our
stylesheets with all
the
Pixels per inch (PPI)
That's what I like about standards. The rest of the world uses the Metric
system, yet we are stuck with these archaic units because the U.S. refuses to
get with the program.
How's that for a 'moral high horse'? ;)
cheers,
Geoff.
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From:
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Also worth considering as an alternative: break it down into
a two-step
process. Show the nested list, with the items as links. Clicking the
link takes you to the specific page about that item, with options to
add/edit/delete.
Do both: single link for
Christian Montoya wrote:
On 1/25/06, Geoff Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We could have:
html
head/head
body
header/header
nav/nav
article/article
aside/aside
footer/footer
How about this:
style type=text/cssli span {float:right; margin-right:30%;}/style
ul
lispan[ Add | Edit | Delete ] /spanItem 1
ul
lispan[ Add | Edit | Delete ] /spanSubItem 1.1
ul
lispan[ Add | Edit | Delete ] /spanSubItem 1.1.1/li
I like the idea of the nav and the aside elements:
http://whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#the-nav
http://whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#the-aside
So instead of:
html
head/head
body
div id=header/div
div id=nav/div
Tee,
I suspect the problem is the IE box model. You have set a width and padding for
#formWrapper.
Increasing the width of the #container by 20px, which is the amount of padding
on the #formWrapper, seems to fix the problem.
#container { width: 825px; ...}
cheers,
Geoff.
,
Geoff
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Sent: Monday, 19 December 2005 9:53 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] IE float quest -SOLVED
On Dec 19, 2005, at 1:40 AM, Geoff Pack wrote:
Tee,
I suspect
To reply to a few people at once:
Daisy wrote:
You can hear the recorded output from JAWS of vertical pipes
(and other
commonly used separator characters) in Peter Krantz's article, The
Sound of the Accessible Title Tag Separator,
Joshua Street wrote:
Can you possibly ditch the un-semantic pipe separators (|) and just
use border-right:1px solid #000; on the li elements? That would
probably help...
Are the pipe separators really un-semantic? They have a long history of being
used in navigation menus, and definitely
Christian Montoya wrote:
If you heard what pipe separators sound like in a screen reader, you
wouldn't think they were semantic. Just because they have a long
history doesn't make them machine-readable.
Well, I have heard what they sound like when Opera reads them out, which is no
biggie.
Samuel Richardson wrote:
Why are you using pipes in the first place? Why is a li with
border-right : 1px solid black; styled on it and spaced out
with margins
and padding not sufficient? This smacks of using nbsp; for layout.
Why? because it's more concise, uses less bandwidth, and
Christian Montoya wrote:
...
- I don't care how a page looks with CSS off, as long as a list really
looks like a list
And what does a list really look like? Which of the following is more correct:
My favourite fruits are watermelon, apples and bananas.
My favourite fruits are:
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Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Geoff Pack wrote:
As for lists, the pipe separated menu list is perfectly
clear to most
people. What is missing is a clean way to mark it up with HTML. You
could use an unordered list, styled inline, but that is overkill in
many cases, and not an useable
Can someone explain what the new Canvas element does that SVG doesn't? And why
is it a new element instead of just using the Object tag?
Geoff.
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Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2005 11:36 AM
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Geoff Pack wrote
Thanks. much clearer now.
Geoff.
Ted Drake wrote:
Try this http://overstimulate.com/projects/canvas/
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Alan Trick wrote:
Is there a problem with this:
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/DOWNLOAD.html
Only that it's written in Java - the server admins here would prefer something
else. It looks like we will have to go with it anyway, as we can't find any
alternatives.
Thanks also for the
Paul Noone wrote:
Also, and I'll probably get lynched for this but the
following should also
work in a transiational doctype.
ol
li value=40/li
...
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Does anyone know of a downloadable CSS validator (other than the W3C one) that
I can install on an local server to batch check files on my local network? We
currently use the WDG html validator, but their CSS validator is not available
for download.
Cheers
Geoff Pack
:)
Geoff Pack
Somaya Langley wrote:
Hi All -
I'm putting together a template for a contents list page for the
National Library of Australia's online pictures delivery system. We
need to start an ordered list on a page from a number other than 1, as
the lists could be quite long and so
Nice script.
What sort of attribution would you like if I borrow it?
Geoff.
Lachlan Hardy wrote:
Herrod, Lisa wrote:
can you send a link to an example of one of these?
Try this one:
http://www.business.vic.gov.au/
Hopefully, you'll forgive the lack of validation - not our
Anders Nawroth wrote:
Mixing lower/uppercase enhances readability, just remember to
write it the same way everywhere, class names and ID's are case
sensitive. I tend to prefer hyphens, like #btn-save
hyphens? bah!
.realCoders use #camelCase
It is on the news story pages, but not the homepage. Strangely enough though,
the small font size in the stories is bigger than the default size on the home
page.
Geoff
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Sent: Thursday, 10
Martin J. Lambert wrote:
Actually, when using XHTML Strict, name is not a valid attribute for
anchors. You can use the id attribute to get the same jump-to-that-
section-of-the-page behaviour, but this will work with *any* element,
not just anchors. Since you don't want the appearance of a
o.k., so how do you go about setting both max- and min-width at the same time?
I tried:
width:80%;
max-width:600px;
min-width:400px;
width:expression(((document.documentElement.clientWidth)) 500 ?
'400px' : '80%');
Well done.
One last thing: the navigation list is 60px off to the left in IE 5 Mac Win.
You need to explicitly set both the padding and margins for lists and list
items to get them to behave consistently across browsers, as they have
different default values.
To fix:
1. remove the 60px
Adam,
I had a quick look in IE 5.0, 5.1, 5.2 and both pages looked the same on all
three.
On IE6 Win the heading drops below the main photo, but on FF it doesn't. I
would start by getting the rendering the same on IE6 and FF and then see what's
happening with IE5 Mac.
General comments:
1.
Andy Kirkwood wrote:
A single image loads faster than the same cut into separate images.
HTTP requires a new connection to be made to the server for each file
(i.e. image). Even when the single image filesize is the same as the
sum of the individual files, reconnecting to download each
Peter Firminger wrote:
If you've gone against all sane advice and used CSS hacks
then you knew exactly what you were in for with future
browsers and potential problems.
...
Sorry for the smug told you so, but many people including
myself have made this very clear over the whole life of
Standalone versions of IE 4 and IE 5 are available at
http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit/standalone. These will work even if you
have a later version of IE installed.
cheers,
Geoff.
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Sent:
Sure. But if you are only testing your own sites, and not surfing the web with
them, then it shouldn't be much of a risk.
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Sent: Friday, 14 October 2005 2:18 PM
To:
Scott,
Have you tried printing this page? If you are going to do the hover thing, make
sure you add a print stylesheet with them all visible at once.
cheers,
Geoff.
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Sent: Tuesday, 20
Sorry to be thick, I get it now.
I guess you have to use the SSI if you want to be absolutely sure.
Though if you are only changing the styles, does it matter? The content will
still be correct (unless the html is also cached...)
cheers,
Geoff.
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From: [EMAIL
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6. Laziness and deadlines. Sometimes it takes a lot of effort to make things
simple. Not always worth it.
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Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2005 9:31
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6. Laziness and deadlines. Sometimes it takes a lot of effort to make things
simple. Not always worth it.
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center_col, right_col,
[clear]
footer
close wrapper
4. top_bar: right-align the text instead of using all that left padding.
hope this helps...
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ABC New Media
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John,
If they want to be coders, then send them straight to the source, and show them
how to find the specs:
http://www.w3.org/
Particularly:
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/
and:
http://validator.w3.org/
Geoff.
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What IFrame? There is no IFrame in your page.
But there are a few ways to do what you want:
1. You can use javascript to change the image source.
2. You can put both images in the page in separate divs and hide one - then use
a show/hide script to swap the divs over.
3. You can put the images
.
BTW, if there is anything that particularly annoys (or pleases) you, send
feedback via the contact form if you want it formally logged. We do make
changes based on feedback we receive.
cheers,
Geoff Pack
Developer,
ABC New Media and Digital Services
found in both Firefox Safari is that
when I increase
the font size the search box and its button disappear from the page.
Hope Stewart
On 4/8/05 7:18 PM, Geoff Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
Thanks for all the comments on the new ABC home page. I did
the front-end
Michael Cordover wrote:
Yup, same mechanism. The #anchor has *always* referred to an id in the
spec, referring to a name as a bit of an extra feature (read:
incompatibility included for fun).
That's a bit arse backwards. 'Name' has been the target of #anchors ('fragment
identifiers') since
Not sure if it's possible to do precisely. To get the text to flow above and
left means you will have to put the image inline in the text, which means they
will jump around a bit depending on the font size and width of the text block.
I got the following code to sort-of work by setting the
-05-13 at 13:11, Geoff Pack wrote:
Not sure if it's possible to do precisely. To get the text
to flow above and left means you will have to put the image
inline in the text, which means they will jump around a bit
depending on the font size and width of the text block.
I got
Try turning off all your styles and see if the table still makes sense. If not,
then you need to add some table attributes.
I find that it often helps to add a border in the html, but most of the time
the default values for the other attributes are fine, and can be styled with
CSS.
cheers,
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