[WSG] Extra menu for when images are turned off

2005-11-27 Thread Stuart Sherwood
I have added a hidden menu to a site for those using text browsers or surfing with images turned off. The regular menu is image based but uses titles for accessibility, but this doesn't show in Lynx. I'd rather have a text based menu now but the client is happy and it is better than the drop

Re: [WSG] Extra menu for when images are turned off

2005-11-27 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Stuart Sherwood wrote: I have added a hidden menu to a site for those using text browsers or surfing with images turned off. The regular menu is image based but uses titles for accessibility, but this doesn't show in Lynx. You *ARE* giving those images suitable ALT attributes, I hope? TITLE

Re: [WSG] Extra menu for when images are turned off

2005-11-27 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: TITLE is irrelevant for accessibility. Actually, let me rephrase that before it causes confusion: TITLE on images is pretty much irrelevant (unless you're doing some sort of mystery meat navigation and need to ensure that Firefox gives the user a tooltip description

Re: [WSG] Extra menu for when images are turned off

2005-11-27 Thread Stuart Sherwood
Sorry, I forgot to mention that the menu uses CSS Sprit rollovers so there are no images in the markup, therefore no alt tags. Title tags are irrelevant for accessibility? From W3C: Audio user agents may speak the title information in a similar context. For example, setting the attribute on a

Re: [WSG] Extra menu for when images are turned off

2005-11-27 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Stuart Sherwood wrote: Sorry, I forgot to mention that the menu uses CSS Sprit rollovers so there are no images in the markup, therefore no alt tags. They're *attributes*, not tags, please learn the correct terminology. Title tags are irrelevant for accessibility? No, they're not

Re: [WSG] Extra menu for when images are turned off

2005-11-27 Thread Stuart Sherwood
Thankyou for correcting my terminology. Text-indent. That's just what I need! Thankyou Lachlan, its a much better solution. Stuart Lachlan Hunt wrote: Stuart Sherwood wrote: Sorry, I forgot to mention that the menu uses CSS Sprit rollovers so there are no images in the markup, therefore

Re: [WSG] Extra menu for when images are turned off

2005-11-27 Thread Terrence Wood
Stuart Sherwood wrote: I have added a hidden menu to a site for those using text browsers or surfing with images turned off. Avoid creating links without text, it's bad practice. Using small images of text in you main navigation is bad too. Things that make me go 'huh?' 1. If I turn off

Re: [WSG] Extra menu for when images are turned off

2005-11-27 Thread Irina Ahrens
Stuart, Try this http://tjkdesign.com/articles/tip.aspRegards, Irina.

Re: [WSG] Extra menu for when images are turned off

2005-11-27 Thread Stuart Sherwood
I think I have come up with a more elegant solution now. There is only one menu with each link formatted like this: lia id=Home title=Home href=index.jspbr /Home/a/li The br pushes the text under the header so it isn't visable to regular users but accessable when images are turned off.

Re: [WSG] Extra menu for when images are turned off

2005-11-27 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Stuart Sherwood wrote: I think I have come up with a more elegant solution now. There is only one menu with each link formatted like this: lia id=Home title=Home href=index.jspbr /Home/a/li The br pushes the text under the header so it isn't visable to regular users but accessable when images