Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-07 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 6/7/05, Ben Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <...> > XHTML is useful to me because I can swap out the DOCTYPE and serve it > as HTML, because it *is* HTML, giving it broad support today while > giving it a predictable and flexible future. This is, essentially, > XHTML-compatible HTML 4.01 Stri

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-07 Thread Ben Curtis
Apparently the MIME/DOCTYPE argument of XHTML vs HTML has been going on for a while, a bit out of my scope. I only have one argument to contribute, which I don't believe I've seen before and may be of some value. On Jun 7, 2005, at 7:17 AM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Yes. Only critical thi

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-07 Thread Kvnmcwebn
"Web standards should not be an exclusive club for those that do everything right from the get go. We need to welcome everybody to the "club" who makes an effort. And if they don't get it right the first time or the second time, that is okay!" Thank you i needed to hear that. **

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-07 Thread XStandard
Rimantas wrote: [quote] Only critical thing for the Web standards is understanding them [/quote] That is a short-term view. If you want Web standards to become mainstream, they need to be transparent. Web standards need to be built-in to tools so that Web designers and Web developers don't need

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-07 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 6/7/05, XStandard Vlad Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <...> > [Ian] 4. Author decides to send the same content as application/xhtml+xml, > because it is, after all, XHTML. > [Vlad] Author wants to learn more about XHTML. What? <...> > I think arguments like this don't help Web standar

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-07 Thread XStandard
Alan wrote: [quote] That might not be a valid argument but that was not Ian's argument. [/quote] Hey Alan, I think it is. Here are the 6 points Ian makes to explain why he thinks using text/html for XHTML is bad. My interpretation follows each point. [source: http://www.hixie.ch/advocacy/xhtml]

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-06 Thread Alan Trick
Vlad Alexander (XStandard) wrote: >Russ wrote: >[quote] >At the risk of being burned at the stake, I think that unless you are willing >to serve your pages as application/xhtml+xml with content negotiation, then >you are probably better off staying with HTML 4.01 at this time. >[/quote] > >Let m

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-03 Thread russ - maxdesign
> Any pointers? Hi Ben, When interviewed, I was reluctant to express an opinion on this topic for the very reasons you describe - the XHTML vs HTML argument quickly turns from facts to opinion - similar to the font size and liquid vs fixed width debates. I completely agree with Vlad that Hixies

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-03 Thread XStandard
Russ wrote: [quote] At the risk of being burned at the stake, I think that unless you are willing to serve your pages as application/xhtml+xml with content negotiation, then you are probably better off staying with HTML 4.01 at this time. [/quote] Let me be the first to gather the kindling :-)

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-03 Thread Ben Curtis
Russ, One of the topics you discuss is your stance on the XHTML vs HTML debate. Your links support your stance -- I've read these before, and find them interesting and insightful, however they are trying to convince the reader of their point and I prefer a balanced argument. In looking for a

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-03 Thread russ - maxdesign
Completely true - the irony! The original post is here: http://www.markme.com/accessibility/archives/007344.cfm Unfortunately, it too goes off to the same flash file. Russ > I can't believe the "WCAG 1.0 Guidelines and Checkpoints for Flash" link > in section 6 goes to a .swf file. o_O

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-03 Thread Felix Miata
Douglas Clifton wrote: > Ha! The shoe's on the other foot, eh Russ? I can't believe the "WCAG 1.0 Guidelines and Checkpoints for Flash" link in section 6 goes to a .swf file. o_O -- "Love does not demand its own way."1 Corinthians 13:5 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Fel