Gene Falck wrote:
Do you suppose Microsoft fixed Notepad when they
coded Windows XP?
Yes, it's pretty safe to assume that enhancements to Notepad do not get
their own press release ...
AFAIK, **all** my files
are missing the http headers
Correct, http headers are only sent by a web server. That s
Hi Dejan,
You wrote:
I thought nothing of the fact that I have
not seen such a result in IE6 and Mozilla 1.7.
Mozilla 1.7.5 still proudly displays an ugly BOM,
IE doesn't.
Hmm--very interesting. I have not seen any BOM
effects even though I use Mozilla at home (IE6
at work) so I downloaded XVI32 an
Well, http://www.w3.org/International/technique-index#language I guess.
djn
Richard Ishida wrote:
http://localhost/International/technique-index#language
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Oops. Of course that URI should have read:
http://www.w3.org/International/technique-index#language
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> Thanks very much for that, Dejan.
>
>
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:31:09 -, Richard Ishida wrote:
> I note that you used incorrect syntax for your CSS declarations - ending
> declarations with ':' rather than ';'. I assume this is just a typo in this
> message, rather than the potential source of the problems you had, since in
> a CSS f
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> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:43:40 -, Richard Ishida wrote:
> > In any case you should always finish a font-famil
Then you might like these pickers - designed for non-native user
input. (Note that the Latin & diacritics picker probably includes
most of what's needed for Vietnamese.)
http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/pickers/
Thanks for that, very useful. I was skeptical, Vietnamese having such
a wide va
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:43:40 -, Richard Ishida wrote:
> In any case you should always finish a font-family declaration with
> 'serif' or 'sans-serif' in this situation. Then if none of the fonts
> you indicated are on the user's system, a font that they do have will
> be used.
Caveat alert
Richard Ishida wrote:
In any case you should always finish a
font-family declaration with 'serif' or 'sans-serif' in this
situation. Then if none of the fonts you indicated are on the user's
system, a font that they do have will be used.
Good point.
Lesson learned: I really shouldn't write heady s
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> Sent: 20 February 2005 04:26
> OK, I understand about the BOM but this still leaves me
> wondering how to save properly. I usually code using Notepad
> which offers, from the Save As... menu choice, the Encoding op
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> Sent: 21 February 2005 04:49
> One thing I've just thought of. The final hurdle in letting the world
> see vietnamese text is hoping that the visitor's browser has a font
> capable of displaying the text. There
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> More generally, inputing characters not native to my
> keyboard/OS is
Hi Gene,
You wrote:
the chance to select the "Encoding:" is next below that
True. Windows started using Unicode as of Win2K. I was surprised indeed
to find the Unicode option in Win98's Wordpad. I was surprised again
today when opening in Unired a file saved as 'Unicode text' with
Wordpad. Unir
Hi Dejan,
You wrote:
I'm not really sure, as the Notepad I got with Win98
doesn't offer anything but 'text file' and 'all files'
Hmm. I didn't think about different versions of
Windows. On my Windows XP, "text file" and "all files"
are the choices for "Save as type:" and the chance
to select the "E
Gene wrote:
I usually code using
> Notepad which offers, from the Save As... menu choice,
> the Encoding options:
I'm not really sure, as the Notepad I got with Win98 doesn't offer
anything but 'text file' and 'all files'(Win98 doesn't do Unicode). What
you can try is to save the page as utf-8, o
I usually code using Notepad
Better use something like PSPad wchich offers you the choice not to
include these ident. bytes.
file as UTF-8 compatible with the iso-8859-1 meta tag?
Eh, nope. If you start using non-ASCII characters (curly quotes etc.) it
would break the page...
--
Jan Brasna aka
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> Sent: 20 February 2005 04:26
> In this matter, I am also wondering where using a meta tag
> specifying iso-8859-1 fits in terms of following the
> standards. I notice many people do this and I gather the
> actual
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> Sent: 20 February 2005 04:26
> OK, I understand about the BOM but this still leaves me
> wondering how to save properly. I usually code using Notepad
> which offers, from the Save As... menu choice, the Encoding opt
Hi Dejan,
You wrote:
woric wrote:
Choose charset UTF-8 (not UTF-8 BOM) when saving.
Can you explain the difference?
In other words, the BOM is a "funny character" Unicode uses as the very
first char in some of its encoding forms to declare which byte is which
when characters are composed of more
woric wrote:
Choose charset UTF-8 (not UTF-8 BOM) when saving.
Can you explain the difference?
In other words, the BOM is a "funny character" Unicode uses as the very
first char in some of its encoding forms to declare which byte is which
when characters are composed of more than 1 byte. As state
> >Choose charset UTF-8 (not UTF-8 BOM) when saving.
>
> Can you explain the difference?
Hi John,
yes I'd be glad to explain the difference.
When saving in UTF, a "Byte Order Mark" (or BOM) can be added to signify
which type Unicode follows.
The bad news is that the BOM may make the file unread
Thanks very much for that, Dejan.
Choose charset UTF-8 (not UTF-8 BOM) when saving.
Can you explain the difference?
Don't forget to mark up properly the Vietnamese content with or such...
Now the one easy thing about this project is that Vietnamese already
contains all the unaccented roman letter
Hi John,
Unicode is today the most foolproof way of sending internationalized
characters to modern browsers. I use Unired for the purpose:
http://www.esperanto.mv.ru/UniRed/ENG/
It's free and it works fine to boot. You should be able to copy/paste
into your HTML from Word, PDF and anything that
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