Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

Richard, you wrote: I think the decision has more to do with maximising the expectation that your design will appear the same on any browser than to do with the features that are available. Also allowing that expectation to continue as standards and browsers move forward and browsers implement

RE: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

L PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gunlaug Sørtun > Sent: 15 April 2005 11:52 > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode > > John Britsios wrote: > > When a document begins with an encoding="utf-8"?>

Re: Subject: Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode-Correction.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:04:57 +0200, Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sarah, Guess it is confusing to many newbies Newbie timidly raises hand... On this page you write: "IE6 will go into quirks mode if there's anything above the DTD in our sou

Re: Subject: Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

David Laakso wrote: On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:04:57 +0200, Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "IE6 will go into quirks mode if there's anything above the DTD in our source-code. We may put a comment or whatever up there at the top, but I use an ***xml prolog***." Yes, there's an error on a

Re: Subject: Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:04:57 +0200, Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sarah, Guess it is confusing to many newbies Newbie David raises hand... On this page you write: "IE6 will go into quirks mode if there's anything above the DTD in our source-code. We may put a comment or whatever up

Re: Subject: Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

Sarah, I suppose I really just wanted to see what others were doing, and more importantly *why*. Perhaps a poll would be useful here? Could be, but some check-points about "why" and "what do you know about browser-modes" should be included. Would make an interesting read, me thinks. There seems to

Re: Subject: Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

Hi Georg > Not any closer to a real benefit from the IE6 mode-change itself, which > is what I'm looking for. > I hope Sarah who started this thread have found something useful in it. > Myself: I don't think IE6' two modes matter much, although I do find it > easier to handle complex pages with I

Re: Subject: Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

Tim White wrote: ... It looked almost like the 3px jog bug, but since I wasn't using boxes, floats and the like that wasn't it. Thanks Tim. (no further details needed :-) ) Have a few cases in my internal archive that sounds like that one. Some of these cases are solved by changing mode, but that

Subject: Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

>From Georg: "I'm asking because after 2 years of studies on the subject, I still haven't found anything useful in IE6' "standard" mode, but I may have missed something." My first experience with putting IE6 into standards mode involved a simple table-based layout. I had an image followed by a hea

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

Foster, Raymond W wrote: Also, IE6's handling of keyword font sizes in standards mode is consistent with other modern browsers. IE6 in quirks mode (and IE 5.5) renders keyword-defined font sizes a step larger than most other browsers. Yes, IE6 handle a few things _differently_ in "standard" and

RE: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

Also, IE6's handling of keyword font sizes in standards mode is consistent with other modern browsers. IE6 in quirks mode (and IE 5.5) renders keyword-defined font sizes a step larger than most other browsers. Ray -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Be

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:13:56 +0200, Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do feel a bit uneasy when someone throws in "run IE6 in standard mode" as a solution to anything. .. I have a bad habit of looking at list author's sites, and their style sheets ["John Britsios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

designer wrote: ... Not sure what it is you're looking for . . . Basically everything that differs so much between "standard" and quirks mode in IE6 that using "standard" mode results in less code and simpler and more robust solutions than using quirks mode. -- Kornel Lesinski wrote: Right-alig

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:43:34 +0100, Gunlaug SÃrtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now, my question again - rephrased: are there anything IE6 can do in "standard" mode, that it can't do -- albeit differently -- in quirks mode? Right-aligned box in flow with left-aligned text in and around it. -- re

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

Hey Georg, - Original Message - From: "Gunlaug Sørtun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode [snip] > Might you be kind enough to tell me what IE6 has to offer in standard > mode that it

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

russ - maxdesign wrote: How about correct rendering of the box model? I'm aware of the box-model issue. That's why I linked to a W3C-page where this is explained in simplest terms. Now, my question again - rephrased: are there anything IE6 c

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

How about correct rendering of the box model? The box model is rendered correctly when IE6 is in standard-compliant mode but renders incorrectly in quirks mode. Unfortunately, even in standards-compliant mode, IE5 and IE5.5 will render the box model incorrectly. Russ > Might you be kind enough

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

John Britsios wrote: When a document begins with an declaration. IE 6 for Windows doen't see the Doctype, so it lapses into "quirks mode". Therefore I would suggest you not to use it. Might you be kind enough to tell me what IE6 has to offer in standard mode that it doesn't have in quirks mode

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

Dear Sara, When a document begins with an declaration. IE 6 for Windows doen't see the Doctype, so it lapses into "quirks mode". Therefore I would suggest you not to use it. Kind regards, John S. Britsios Accessibility & SEO Consultant, Usability Specialist & Trainer Webnauts Net Koblenzer St

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: I am interested in people's thoughts about using "quirks mode" (ie adding before the doctype) vs "standards mode". Think we had a similar discussion a few months back... It is recommended to use the "xml-prolog" with xhtml1.0, and it _is only_ IE6 that gets thrown into qu