Re: [wsjt-devel] FW: Split frequency logging

2017-11-22 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
On 23/11/2017 8:58 AM, Laurie, VK3AMA wrote: On 23/11/2017 7:31 AM, Dan Malcolm wrote: WSJT-X is pretty good at running QSO’s with ‘split’ frequency operation.  JTAlert is essential for smooth QSO tracking and logging.  What I am missing is logging the separate frequencies for a split QSO.

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-22 Thread Tsutsumi Takehiko
Hi, Thank you very much for providing so many additional comments to my request. However, these comments are not directly related to my proposal. I included the fact that members are interested in JT65 phase out policy and it should be decided by the owner of wsjt-x and then reflect to the work

Re: [wsjt-devel] UDP Defect WSJT-X 1.8.0 r8193. QSO Logged packet, Dial Freq data incorrect.

2017-11-22 Thread G8DQX (WSJT developers on SF)
Laurie, the /QSO Logged/ datagram is *coherent* in that the ADIF field *FREQ* is defined to be "QSO frequency in Megahertz", which would be dial frequency plus TX offset, allowing for the datagram fields to be represented in Hz, rather than MHz. There is also an ADIF field *FREQ_RX* defined a

Re: [wsjt-devel] UDP Defect WSJT-X 1.8.0 r8193. QSO Logged packet, Dial Freq data incorrect.

2017-11-22 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
On 23/11/2017 9:34 AM, Bill Somerville wrote: Hi Laurie, the frequency provided is consistent with what is logged to the WSJT-X log files. The Status message provides the displayed dial frequency and also contains the current Rx and Tx offsets so you can have all options from that. I belie

Re: [wsjt-devel] UDP Defect WSJT-X 1.8.0 r8193. QSO Logged packet, Dial Freq data incorrect.

2017-11-22 Thread Bill Somerville
On 22/11/2017 22:05, Laurie, VK3AMA wrote: WSJT-X 1.8.0 r8193. The UDP QSO Logged packet defines the following... Dial frequency (Hz) quint64 In my tests, the frequency being conveyed in the data is the Dial plus Tx DF. Is this a defect or by design? The UDP Status packet defines a simila

[wsjt-devel] UDP Defect WSJT-X 1.8.0 r8193. QSO Logged packet, Dial Freq data incorrect.

2017-11-22 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
WSJT-X 1.8.0 r8193. The UDP QSO Logged packet defines the following... Dial frequency (Hz) quint64 In my tests, the frequency being conveyed in the data is the Dial plus Tx DF. Is this a defect or by design? The UDP Status packet defines a similar Dial frequency and in my tests it is corr

Re: [wsjt-devel] FW: Split frequency logging

2017-11-22 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
On 23/11/2017 7:31 AM, Dan Malcolm wrote: WSJT-X is pretty good at running QSO’s with ‘split’ frequency operation.  JTAlert is essential for smooth QSO tracking and logging.  What I am missing is logging the separate frequencies for a split QSO.  I suspect that most ops don’t track the diff

[wsjt-devel] FW: Split frequency logging

2017-11-22 Thread Dan Malcolm
WSJT-X is pretty good at running QSO’s with ‘split’ frequency operation. JTAlert is essential for smooth QSO tracking and logging. What I am missing is logging the separate frequencies for a split QSO. I suspect that most ops don’t track the different Tx and Rx frequencies, but I do. Perhap

Re: [wsjt-devel] Split frequency logging

2017-11-22 Thread Claude Frantz
On 11/22/2017 02:25 PM, Dan Malcolm wrote: Hi Dan & all, > WSJT-X is pretty good at running QSO’s with ‘split’ frequency > operation.  JTAlert is essential for smooth QSO tracking and logging.  > What I am missing is logging the separate frequencies for a split QSO.  > I suspect that most ops don

Re: [wsjt-devel] Split frequency logging

2017-11-22 Thread James Shaver
It wasn't "too long ago" when the spark people grumbled about CW. Then the CW people grumbled about AM Phone. Then the AM Phone people grumbled about SSB. If you don't like it, don't do it - stick with CW and SSB, they aren't going away anytime soon and a good number of us here enjoy those

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-22 Thread Karl Barth
Hi, I use(d) JT9(a) slow, JT65 and FT8  on 6 , 4m and 2m quite a lot  and achieved with JT9(a) quite a number of qso's iwhich did not complete in JT65 or FT8. The actual difference between J9a and JT65 may be even slightly more that the two dB calculated theory: 2dB is a lot at flat VHF conditions

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-22 Thread Philippe CHARDON (LaPoste) via wsjt-devel
I figured out that FT8 operation is similar to contest operation. The band is crowded, there is some overlapping between stations. Some hams choose a frequency, stick to it and call. Some others listen (or read with FT8), browse the band, and try to contact the ones who call. During a contest, th

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-22 Thread Ria Jairam
I don’t think that taking another kc for FT8 would go over well with people who use other digital modes. The Olivia and PSK31 crowd are already grumbling. 73 Ria, N2RJ On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 9:08 AM Erik - wrote: > I don’t think so. Skeds with distant stations on the low bands that failed > wit

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-22 Thread Erik -
I don’t think so. Skeds with distant stations on the low bands that failed with JT65 have succeeded immediately after with JT9. In practical use at least JT9 has a maybe 2-3dB benefit and seems to hold up better through Arctic flutter. These QSOs were west Europe to Pacific over N Pole on 80mtrs

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-22 Thread Steven Franke
Hi Mike, > On Nov 22, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel > wrote: > > JT65 is more sensitive than JT9 too. I don’t think that I agree with this. According to the WSJT-X User Guide, second paragraph, "JT9 was originally designed for the LF, MF, and lower HF bands. Its submode JT9A

Re: [wsjt-devel] Split frequency logging

2017-11-22 Thread Karl Barth
Dear all, it is not too long ago and we commonly used to run our qso's in person (cw/ssb) and log on paper. Do we realy need to get all radio contacts fully automated? Just  go to the shack in the morning and activate the PC with all add-on automated software?  I got a radio licence, not my PC

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-22 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
JT65 is more sensitive than JT9 too.This is the same as saying we only need one PSK mode or such.There really is no logical reason to "retire" a mode. de Mike W9MDB On Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 3:46:24 AM CST, David Alloza wrote: Hello Mike, I agree with Gary. We can conside

[wsjt-devel] Split frequency logging

2017-11-22 Thread Dan Malcolm
WSJT-X is pretty good at running QSO’s with ‘split’ frequency operation. JTAlert is essential for smooth QSO tracking and logging. What I am missing is logging the separate frequencies for a split QSO. I suspect that most ops don’t track the different Tx and Rx frequencies, but I do. Perhaps

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-22 Thread David Alloza
Hello Mike, I agree with Gary. We can consider JT65 as obsolete on HF bands if we have FT8 and JT9. One solution would be quick out JT65 on WSJT-X configuration, keep JT9, and split FT8 into 2k adjacent allocation. One location for CQ from southern hemisphere and other for CQ from northern hem