Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-19 Thread Tom Ramberg via wsjt-devel
FWIW, I've had some problems lately with Omnirig 1.19, WSJT-X 2.1.2 and Swisslogforwindows. The radio is a FT-1000MP. Using "fake it", the radio did not return to the listening frequency on VFO A, but stayed on the Tx frequency. Trying a fallback to Omnirig 1.16 and 1.18 did not solve the proble

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-19 Thread Claude Frantz
On 12/18/19 1:24 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: The only reason you would HAVE to run Mode=Rig Split on WSJT-X is if your rig doesn't behave well on Fake It.Generally speaking rigs will behave a bit better in Rig Split. Sometimes, Split=FakeIt works better than Split=Rig. We have to exa

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Turns out it was a bug in the FLRig backend in hamlib. Testing the fix now de Mike W9MDB On Wednesday, December 18, 2019, 11:25:24 AM CST, Saku wrote: Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 18.12.2019 klo 13.43: > Not a collision.try it yourselfset rig to VFOA USB-D and V

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread Saku
Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 18.12.2019 klo 13.43: Not a collision.try it yourselfset rig to VFOA USB-D and VFOB to USB.  Then press Tune on WSJT-X.  It will frequently not change VFOB to USB-D. I did 46 times. No problem. [saku@hamtpad tmp]$ cat /etc/

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread Zeev Stadler
Bill, My mistake. You are absolutely right. I have changed "Settings->Radio-Mode" to "None" and forgot about it. This was done because selecting "IC-7300-DATA" as Omni-Rig's "Rig type" and selecting "Data/Pkt" as WSJT-X's "Radio-Mode" forced the transceiver to use the 1.2Khz "FIL2" IF filter rath

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread John Kludt
Bill, Okay, okay I misunderstood the original post. I have used and continue to use both methods. Fake It has proven easier to implement for me so I mostly use that but Rig Split you are correct works, too. But I will suggest there is some confusion in terms that pops up from time to time. You

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
That was what I meant by not behaving well on Fake It.Of course your explanation is much better :-) Mike On Wednesday, December 18, 2019, 07:10:48 AM CST, Bill Somerville wrote: On 18/12/2019 12:24, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: > The only reason you would HAVE to run Mode=Rig S

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread Bill Somerville
On 18/12/2019 12:24, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: The only reason you would HAVE to run Mode=Rig Split on WSJT-X is if your rig doesn't behave well on Fake It. Generally speaking rigs will behave a bit better in Rig Split. Mike, you might want to reword that paragraph. Using SPLIT on t

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread Bill Somerville
Johnny, are you deliberately trying to confuse here? First you say using SPLIT on a rig has no place with FT8, then here you say you do exactly that. Make up your mind! 73 Bill G4WJS. On 18/12/2019 12:51, John Kludt wrote: Mike, I always run Fake it or Rig split - great feature and yes, it

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread Bill Somerville
On 18/12/2019 12:13, John Kludt wrote: Zeev, I don't really understand your point - why are you setting the rig for spilt operation?  I sometimes worry that the use of the word "split" immediately brings to mind the "Up 1 KHz" CW mindset.  I work FT8 "spilt" all the time but I never ever put

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread John Kludt
Mike, I always run Fake it or Rig split - great feature and yes, it keeps the signals clean and preseves power just like ti is supposed to. I run my Tx bandpass up to 3000 - I could go higher but most of the older rigs struggle so not much point. John On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:27 AM Black Micha

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread John Nelson via wsjt-devel
This extract from the User Guide Section 4.2 might help to explain why Split mode is useful: --- Split Operation: Significant advantages result from using Split mode (separate VFOs for Rx and Tx) if your radio supports it. If it does not, WSJT-X can emulate such behavior. Either method will res

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
The only reason you would HAVE to run Mode=Rig Split on WSJT-X is if your rig doesn't behave well on Fake It.Generally speaking rigs will behave a bit better in Rig Split. If you are saying you don't run Fake It either then you are risking harmonics and/or power loss.  Split and Fake It both pre

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread John Kludt
Zeev, I don't really understand your point - why are you setting the rig for spilt operation? I sometimes worry that the use of the word "split" immediately brings to mind the "Up 1 KHz" CW mindset. I work FT8 "spilt" all the time but I never ever put the radio itself in "Split" mode. All "spl

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Not a collision.try it yourselfset rig to VFOA USB-D and VFOB to USB.  Then press Tune on WSJT-X.  It will frequently not change VFOB to USB-D. FLRig is the rig conrtoller, FLDigi talks to FLRig, WSJT-X talks to FLRig, Log4OM talks to rigctld talking to FLRig, local utility talks to FLRig

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread Bill Somerville
Zeev, that's not correct. WSJT-X will control the mode of your rig if you wish it to. The options available in the "Settings->Radio-Mode" group determine the mode used on your rig: "None"   - WSJT-X does not attempt to control the rig's mode, "USB"  - WSJT-X sets the rig mode to U

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-18 Thread Saku
Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 18.12.2019 klo 0.47: Band change seems to work all the time but externally changing frequencies (from Log4OM) seems to cause this situation sometimes. de Mike W9MDB Hi! Looks like a collision when 2 programs tries to access same rig port. Start a rigct

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-17 Thread Zeev Stadler
When using Omni-Rig, I believe WSJT-X Does not control the operation mode of the IC-7300 regardless of the "Split Operation" selection. As far as I can tell, WSJT-X assumes the user is responsible for selecting "USB-D" for both VFO-A and VFO-B. Here is a scenario that demonstrated this: - Change

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-17 Thread Paul Kube
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 2:53 PM Black Michael via wsjt-devel < wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > v2.1.2 > > We're getting an inconsistent and somewhat hard to reproduce situation > where on an IC-7300 VFOB is not getting set to USB-D. > I have seen this also. My setup runs WSJT-X through

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-17 Thread Bill Somerville
Hi Mike, ok, so if Log4OM is in the mix I assume you are using rigctld. Can you provide a verbose Hamlib trace of the issue? 73 Bill G4WJS. On 17/12/2019 23:05, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: Hamlib On Tuesday, December 17, 2019, 05:01:25 PM CST, Bill Somerville wrote: On 17/12

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-17 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Hamlib On Tuesday, December 17, 2019, 05:01:25 PM CST, Bill Somerville wrote: On 17/12/2019 22:47, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: v2.1.2 We're getting an inconsistent and somewhat hard to reproduce situation where on an IC-7300 VFOB is not getting set to USB-D. It

Re: [wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-17 Thread Bill Somerville
On 17/12/2019 22:47, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: v2.1.2 We're getting an inconsistent and somewhat hard to reproduce situation where on an IC-7300 VFOB is not getting set to USB-D. It seems to me that WSJT-X should be setting USB-D mode to VFOA and, when in split, to VFOB on every tr

[wsjt-devel] USB-D on VFOB

2019-12-17 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
v2.1.2 We're getting an inconsistent and somewhat hard to reproduce situation where on an IC-7300 VFOB is not getting set to USB-D. It seems to me that WSJT-X should be setting USB-D mode to VFOA and, when in split, to VFOB on every transmit but it appears there's some time when WSJT-X thinks VF