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Hello everyone. I'm new to this mailing list but have
been reading the archives. I've some Saturday afternoon
thoughts to share.

Firstly, I've noticed questions  about OSM come up several
times over the past few months. I recently posted to the
xastir-dev list with a patch to support tiled WMS servers
(WMS-C). I'm using this to view OpenStreetMap and OpenArearialMap
data with Xastir.

http://lists.xastir.org/pipermail/xastir-dev/2008-September/002881.html

Probably it needs some changes or cleanup before it might be
suitable for inclusion in Xastir, but I would appreciate feedback
about how that might best be done and whether the way that I have
implemented it makes sense.

Also someone posted a question about the shapefiles from
Eric Germann that they were having trouble getting the text
to display. I had to edit the .dbfawk files to change the
zoom levels at which to display them to work better with my
setup. I also had to create a .dbfawk file for the M2 shapes
(I just copied the M2.dbfawk and again edited the display_level
and text_level).

On strategies for Xastir-NG, I heartily agree that a good low-
level APRS library would be a very good thing to have. Written
in C with bindings for other languages like Python and Perl.

I don't want to get into a detailed GPL vs. BSD discussion if
it can be avoided, but I would like to point out that (L)GPL does
not prevent commercial use. It just means that you have to
distribute the source code so one's business has to be something
other than selling binaries.
The earlier discussion of data distribution with torrents is a
great idea. I am aware of an ESA initiative that is working on
doing just that and also developing a cataloguing web interface
driven by geo-django and OpenLayers.

Mind that generating torrents on the fly is not very helpful since
for one-off data packages you might as well just use FTP since
there's no benefit to seeding.

Should Xastir have direct support for such a thing? I'm not so
sure. It seems like a generally useful but distinct component that
would be good for Xastir and good for lots of other things that
use large geographical datasets.

On mapping in Xastir-NG, I've been thinking about how modern
tools like OpenLayers and GoogleEarth work. I know the KML support
in OpenLayers isn't entirely fleshed out, but suppose that will
get fixed so that it is eventually as complete as GoogleEarth.

Now what about making so there was a program which would (1)
use the low-level aprs interface and (2) expose that via a
REST-ful HTTP API (there are some services that do this already,
but this might run on the local host). (3) The output could be
KML with all the appropriate Refresh/Add/Change/Delete glue.

That way the client, GE or OpenLayers, could do the complicated
rendering and presentation, and the APRS specific parts could be
exposed with very small web pages (such as might be shown in a
bubble dialog obtained by clicking on a placemark/station).

The ability to operate off-line is crucial, however I think that
that could be accomplished by having local datastores that serve
the maps (using tools like mapserver, mapnik, tilecache et. al).

Apologies for the long, rambling, scattershot email...

73s de VE2WSW

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