Re: .log directory

2010-01-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 18:17 +0100, Wolfram Kleff wrote: > Request for Comments/Standards update suggestion: > > I would like to suggest a ".log" directory in the $HOME directory like the > ".cache" directory. > The ".log" directory would be a good place for all the log, history and > recent > f

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 21:01 +, Nuno Pinheiro wrote: > this may be a very silly idea but i thought i should share, couldn't it make > sense to simply make a font with all the symbols you need, > > as i told you guys KDE is probably going to implement this type of icons > inside plasma specif

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 21:07 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote: > On Tuesday 08 December 2009 03:38:15 pm Rodney Dawes wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:43 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > &g

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-08 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:43 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jakub Steiner wrote on 02/12/09 22:55: > >... > > What the important part here is that the color isn't defined in the > > icon itself, it's up to the widget theme to define in all so

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:52:13 +0100 Jakub Steiner wrote: > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Kenneth Wimer > wrote: > > Most important will be the foreground colors like normal, prelight, > > active, selected and insensitive. > > To keep things simple, we should treat the symbols as monochrome, ie.

Re: Desktop usability issues: some comments from the country of bears, vodka and ISO8859-5

2009-09-03 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 11:17 +, Aceler wrote: > John Tapsell johnflux at gmail.com wrote at Tue Sep 1 07:00:55 PDT 2009: > >> Another issue - stealing focus. In X Window, every app that requests > >> focus, gets it. > > > I think KWin disables focus stealing by default. Either way, you can > >

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-07-24 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 20:00 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday 23 July 2009, Michael Pyne wrote: > > hearing someone from a i18n who has actually had a problem completing the > > translation because the current means available are insufficient. The i18n issues aren't in translating the tex

Re: freedesktop.org specification process

2009-07-09 Thread Rodney Dawes
I generally disagree with the idea that in order to use the org.freedesktop namespace for DBus interfaces, you must first gain acceptance through having multiple desktops use your interface. This means that it will be much harder to gain acceptance (as I'm sure that lots of KDE developers are relu

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-07-02 Thread Rodney Dawes
I've created a project [1] on Launchpad for this now. Please go ahead and file some requests there as separate bugs for each icon name. Both Ken [2] and myself should be notified of new bugs against the project. Thanks. [1] http://launchpad.net/icon-naming-spec [2] Ken Wimer is now a co-maintaine

Re: basedir spec and plugins

2009-06-30 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 13:02 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > ia64-linux-gnu (is the word size/endianness differentiation really necessary, > or is there one endianness and word size that, in practice, everyone uses? > If you really need to distinguish, talk to config-patc...@gnu.org, without > which

Re: basedir spec and plugins

2009-06-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 15:19 +0200, stefan.k...@nokia.com wrote: > hi, > > the spec [1] only talks about > XDG_DATA_DIRS/HOME -> e.g. icons, docs, ... equiv of e.g. /usr/share > XDG_CONFIG_DIRS/HOME -> settings, equiv of /etc > XDG_CACHE_DIRS/HOME -> e.g. a plugin cache, equiv of /var/cache > >

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 03:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 29.06.09 21:40, Rodney Dawes (dobey.p...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Another reason to suggest using Launchpad Bugs to track their status. > > It provides meaningful status field information, priority, and thr

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 15:51 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: > Well, that is not strictly true. We did have a discussion or two about > it in the past but nothing concrete came out of it. Right. Let's change that then. Congratulations. You are now a co-maintainer of the spec. What I meant by my stateme

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 23:09 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sun, 28.06.09 18:10, Aaron J. Seigo (ase...@kde.org) wrote: > > > > The big problem is that noone else but Rodney is willing to maintain > > > the spec. > > > > so, i should have asked this the first time, but i figured maybe an ir

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 19:21 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > a couple of people have offered this POV now. this concerns me deeply, as KDE > just recently adopted this spec. the only reason we went through all that > work[1] was to gain the benefits of a shared spec. if the spec dies now, then > o

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 14:31 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Sunday 28 June 2009, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > The big problem is that noone else but Rodney is willing to maintain > > the spec. > > if someone was found who would maintain it and had the appropriate experience > to do so, would s

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-25 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 15:02 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday 25 June 2009, Rodney Dawes wrote: > > Bugzilla and MoinMoin don't provide useful work-flow for maintaining > > status and discussion of something like icon names. They are not > > particularly great fo

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-25 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 17:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 15:02 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > my only question is whether or not this is something that the various > > participants in working on the icon spec are in favour of? i assume/hope > > so, > > but as it ha

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-25 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 20:32 +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: > At 1245949338 time_t, Nicolò Chieffo wrote: > > There is the possibility to subscribe a new launchpad project about > > the icon naming spec, to better follow versions, bugs, feature > > requests, user questions. > > In my opinion we should

Re: about names for special folders

2009-06-15 Thread Rodney Dawes
As I already stated elsewhere, I think folder-foo is better here, absent the usage of emblems on the normal folder icon, which would be more appropriate. Though, I think there are some oddities in the naming of the folders themselves, which we might want to avoid duplicating in the icon names for

Re: ThemePackageSpec (aka Metathemes)

2009-06-07 Thread Rodney Dawes
either. > > This and the fact that icon themes are able to inherit other iconthemes makes > packaging the icons on a "per single content folder" base quite problematic. > > So this needs to get somehow dealt with. > > Regards, > > Torsten > > &g

Re: desktop-bookmark-spec: disable recent files storage?

2009-06-07 Thread Rodney Dawes
Hi, The Recent Files spec isn't XBEL. I don't know how implementable this is, but I think it would be better to store configuration in config somewhere. Perhaps this could be implemented via dconf (when it is available) or with an XSetting, so that it will work for both desktops. -- Rodney On S

Re: Voting mechnism is needed for xdg discussion.

2009-06-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
Popularity contests are not the way to solve design issues. Also, we already have a forum for "voting" on these issues. It's called mailing list discussion. Having a straight yes/no vote on the issues doesn't dissect the issues that may in fact cause other issues, which is why they aren't getting c

Re: ThemePackageSpec (aka Metathemes)

2009-06-04 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 09:19 +0200, Stephan Arts wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Rodney Dawes wrote: > > The biggest issues I see, are icon themes, cursor themes, and sound > > themes. These are currently installed in separate paths from other > > theme bits, and

Re: ThemePackageSpec (aka Metathemes)

2009-06-02 Thread Rodney Dawes
The biggest issues I see, are icon themes, cursor themes, and sound themes. These are currently installed in separate paths from other theme bits, and cursors and icons are both under icons, which is yet another issue. I think the best way forward is to probably get the specs for those themes updat

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-05-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 16:08 -0700, Brian J. Tarricone wrote: > Rodney Dawes wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 11:55 -0700, Brian J. Tarricone wrote: > > > No. I never actually denied these icons, or specifically stated they > > were a bad idea. I asked questions about how

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-05-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 00:56 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 14.05.09 17:51, Rodney Dawes (dobey.p...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 11:55 -0700, Brian J. Tarricone wrote: > > > > and has been for a long while now. And the base spec cle

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-05-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 11:55 -0700, Brian J. Tarricone wrote: > > and has been for a long while now. And the base spec clearly identifies > > how to name these device icons anyway, for specific types of devices, > > with only the base types being in the base spec, so everything falls > > back to tho

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-05-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 11:30 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > No, I think the problem is that people disagree about what the purpose > of the spec is. > > You clearly believe that it's a way to force applications > towards a certain design principle. Not really. People just like to someho

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-05-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 11:25 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > True, but what might work is to have a second "Extra Icons" spec that > works together with the base icon spec. > > This "Extra Icon" spec would, by design, have the same goals as the base > spec, but would be maintained in a more 'reasona

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-05-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:19 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sat, 02.05.09 16:14, Lennart Poettering (mz...@0pointer.de) wrote: > > > On Tue, 21.04.09 01:41, Lennart Poettering (mz...@0pointer.de) wrote: > > > > > I am still convinced that having these four (or five) icon names for > > > all

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-04-20 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 03:33 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 18.03.09 21:56, Lennart Poettering (mz...@0pointer.de) wrote: > > > May I suggest the following names? > > > > audio-card (as it exists right now, intended for the generic idea of > > 'audio') I really want to change this, b

Re: XDG, xdg-open, and view vs. edit

2009-03-30 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 19:25 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Pat Suwalski wrote: > > Daniel Bo wrote: > >> That said, I wonder why the choice was to set a default application > >> for opening when most file types have view and edit modes. Why are > >> there not xdg-

Re: Icon Theme spec and multiple index.theme

2009-03-16 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 18:36 +0100, Sanel Zukan wrote: > Does this mean that when $HOME/.icons/foo-theme/index.theme was read, > all other directory entries from > /usr/share/pixmaps/foo-theme/index.theme are ignored, except "48x48/apps"? Yes. ___ xdg m

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-03-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 11:08 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > they both require a jack-plug, bluetooth- or irda > > interface to send audio from a machine to your ear. > > Given that thinking, a scanner, a camera and a webcam are the same thing > as well :) I certainly use my DSLR to scan receipt

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-03-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 12:18 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Heya! Hallo, > This hence boils down to that I'd like to ask for the following five standard > icon names: > > - Speakers (i.e. external USB speakers or suchlike) This is really what audio-card was supposed to be. Having an icon f

Re: Request for new standard icon, "window"

2009-03-06 Thread Rodney Dawes
What Context[1] do you see this fitting into, if it does go into the naming spec? I don't feel it really fits in any of the existing ones, so we would probably need a new context for these sorts of things too, no? -- Rodney [1] http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/latest/ar01s02.html

Re: sending apps to the right place in the (new) submenu

2009-01-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 20:21 +0100, schoappied wrote: > Rodney Dawes wrote: > > This is handled through categories. Of course Rhythmbox doesn't play > > multiple types of media yet afaik. It only does music. :) > > > > If the categories in the .desktop file for the a

Re: sending apps to the right place in the (new) submenu

2009-01-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
This is handled through categories. Of course Rhythmbox doesn't play multiple types of media yet afaik. It only does music. :) If the categories in the .desktop file for the app, and the .menu file match up, then the app shows up in that menu, unless the implementation is doing something wrong/wei

Re: What constitutes "user configuration files" in the XDG basedir spec?

2009-01-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2009-01-10 at 22:09 +0100, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > Hi all, > at http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-0.6.html > it is explained that $XDG_DATA_{HOME,DIRS} is for "(user specific) data > files" and $XDG_CONFIG_{HOME,DIRS} for "(user specific) configuration > files"

Re: No category for blogging clients

2009-01-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 07:03 -0500, Fred Drake wrote: > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Matthew Smith > wrote: > > The problem is that none > > of the registered categories actually cover blogging clients, as it's > > not a web browser nor a web development application (let alone any of > > the ot

Re: "minimal list of must have icons"

2009-01-03 Thread Rodney Dawes
The Icon Naming Specification itself only provides the minimal list of names. I've changed the text you referenced, to clarify this, in CVS. There will be addendums to provide lists of names for extra icons, such as devices[1] and MIME types. The names in the spec itself are intended to be the bas

Re: Icon naming spec: generic binary MIME type icon?

2008-12-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 13:52 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: > On Sunday 07 December 2008, Rodney Dawes wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 01:05 +0100, Jakob Petsovits wrote: > > > Yes, of course. I'm aware that gnome-icon-theme has little relevance to > > > spec issues,

Re: file selector abstraction (GUI) (libfileselector.so)

2008-12-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 11:14 -0600, Ted Gould wrote: > On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 19:12 +, Mark Seaborn wrote: > > I would also argue that preview widgets should not be application > > specific. A previewer should be registered to work across all > > applications. For example, you should get previe

Re: Icon naming spec: generic binary MIME type icon?

2008-12-06 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 01:05 +0100, Jakob Petsovits wrote: > Yes, of course. I'm aware that gnome-icon-theme has little relevance to spec > issues, and did not intend to imply any connection, just that it's not > currently possible to use an application-octet-stream icon while assuming > that >

Re: Icon naming spec: generic binary MIME type icon?

2008-12-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 10:26 +0100, Jakob Petsovits wrote: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008, Rodney Dawes wrote: > > It is maintained. And I am very easily contacted. > > You might consider to reply to the original post in this thread. > I believe the lack of feedback about past pro

Re: Icon naming spec: generic binary MIME type icon?

2008-12-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 20:39 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: > Hi, > > I think the icon naming spec is lacking a generic binary MIME type icon. For > example, recent shared-mime-info has set text-x-generic for a lot of file > types that have nothing to do with text, I suppose because there's no bette

Re: Icon naming spec: generic binary MIME type icon?

2008-12-02 Thread Rodney Dawes
It is maintained. And I am very easily contacted. On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 21:51 +0800, PCMan wrote: > Second that! > Forking is needed if the original spec is no more maintained and the > original maintainer cannot be contacted. > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Richard Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: What is the definition of "standards"?

2008-12-01 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 20:09 +0100, Jakob Petsovits wrote: > Although, didn't someone propose a distinction between specifications that > have > generally been agreed upon, and specifications that have not? The "Specifications" wiki page should have that already, listing the specifications in suc

Re: Why .local/share ?

2008-11-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 11:10 -0500, Liam R E Quin wrote: > Certainly nowhere starting with a "." -- I don't want to be > carrying binaries around in hidden directories in 10 years' time. Luckily the world is going to end in ~4 years, so we won't have to worry about what the convention is 10 years f

Re: Why .local/share ?

2008-11-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 11:30 +0100, Thiago Macieira wrote: > Orion White wrote: > >Hi-- > > > >I've begun to use the XDG base directory standard for my projects, and I > >am very happy with it. > > > >However, I do not understand the rational behind .local/share. I have > >searched the Internet for

Re: Proposed improvement to the Desktop Entry Specification: Relative icon paths

2008-09-26 Thread Rodney Dawes
I don't think your proposal is the best way to solve your use cases. For one, having .directory files in each directory is deprecated. Secondly, a lot of multimedia software already has methods for setting album art for music and movies. It would probably be better to specify some standard method f

Re: Icon theme spec on the website

2008-09-25 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 21:05 +0200, Jakob Petsovits wrote: > And a staging area. Like, a place where developers can list their icons > regardless of applicability in other desktops, and other devs list theirs > too, > and everyone can have a look at what similar applications use and > consequent

Re: Icon theme spec on the website

2008-09-25 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 15:38 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 11:30 +0200, Stephan Arts wrote: > > I noticed system-suspend system-hibernate and system-reboot are > > missing from 0.8.90, is that is CVS? > > I've given up on the icon-naming-spec, it's just too hard for developer

Re: Icon theme spec on the website

2008-09-25 Thread Rodney Dawes
The details are in the spec. The problem with file type icons is people assign arbitrary things as the MIME type. Like application/foo for audio files, or text types. It seems like most new things just end up under application/ when they would be better suited to other groups, or perhaps should hav

Re: Icon theme spec on the website

2008-09-23 Thread Rodney Dawes
Do you know of some way to make the "-latest.html" link get generated from the spec in cvs, rather than just pointing at the latest version that was released? There hasn't been a "release" since the 0.8 version of the spec. I suppose I can make an 0.9 version if there is some immediate pressing ne

Re: Icon-naming-spec names help... (I am a bit confused)

2008-09-22 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 11:03 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:56 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 16:41 +0200, Stephan Arts wrote: > > > gnome-fs-blockdev > > > gnome-fs-fifo > > > gnome-fs-sock

Re: Icon-naming-spec names help... (I am a bit confused)

2008-09-22 Thread Rodney Dawes
Hi, On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 16:41 +0200, Stephan Arts wrote: > gnome-fs-blockdev > gnome-fs-fifo > gnome-fs-socket > gnome-fs-chardev > gnome-fs-regular > > > As you can see, I found replacements for the top 7 icons pretty > easilly. But the last 7 confuse me, which icon-names should be used > for

Re: missing a .desktop files howto

2008-09-04 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 11:28 -0500, D. Marlin wrote: > Matej Tyc wrote: > > Hello, > > I am developing an application that could use a menu entry. I have > > learned that I have to drop an appropriate .desktop file to > > /usr/share/applications, but I have problems with icons. > > If I write Icon

Re: missing a .desktop files howto

2008-09-04 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 17:53 +0200, Matej Tyc wrote: > Hello, > I am developing an aplication that could use a menu entry. I have > learned that I have to drop an appropriate .desktop file > to /usr/share/applications, but I have problems with icons. > If I write Icon=foo, then where to put the actu

Re: Icon names vs. emblems

2008-07-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 02:04 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 20:17 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 15:49 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > > > > > How is using a + any different from a - in this situation? Shouldn't we &g

Re: Icon names vs. emblems

2008-06-19 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 09:14 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 12:35 +0200, Jakob Petsovits wrote: > > > > As long as providing such a [base]+[emblem] icon is always optional for the > > icon theme, this might work out nicely. I think the language in your patch > > is > > no

Re: [icon naming] "zoom" vs. "page-zoom"

2008-05-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 06:45 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > Rodney Dawes wrote: > > That would be like having user-trash, user-bookmarks, user-online, > > user-desktop, and whatever else there might be, fall back to "user". > > > > Not very sensibl

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 15:55 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi, > > I've asked for the creation of a git repository to host all fd.o specs > (will make things much easier). I think it'd make sense to send commit > notifications to this list since it will help people track the progress > and the chan

Re: desktop neutral xsettings manager?

2008-04-23 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 22:49 +0800, 洪任諭 wrote: > No, lxsession and lxsession-lite don't do that. > lxde-settings, however, map a simple config file with ini format to > xsettings for LXDE. > > Besides, xsettings is NOT practically desktop-neutral. > Currently only GTK+ programs use it. Not true.

Re: Desktop Theme Spec

2008-04-20 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 03:09 +0800, 洪任諭 wrote: > 2008/4/21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 洪任諭 wrote: > > > > > We should have only one set of common theming API for all toolkits. > > > Then some backends for every toolkits should be created by the developers > > > who master these tool

Re: Desktop menu - new category

2008-04-16 Thread Rodney Dawes
I would vote for having it be either Philosophy or Theology. -- dobey On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 14:57 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le lundi 14 avril 2008, à 21:47 +0800, Toma a écrit : > > Well there is a growing number of Religious software about and it > > should have a home in the menu. Its a mat

Re: Desktop menu - new category

2008-04-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 23:31 +0200, Jakob Petsovits wrote: > On Thursday, 10. April 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Thursday 10 April 2008, jmehdi wrote: > > > > Hi Mehdi, > > > > > > > > Out of curiosity, what software are you thinking of having in > > > > there? :) > > > > > > Softwares used t

Re: Icon naming issue

2008-02-08 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 22:34 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: > On Friday 27 April 2007 21:39:48 James Richard Tyrer wrote: > > Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > > HiColor is not "default", it is fallback. > > > > Semantics Failing to follow the semantics of a specification means you fail to follow the specific

Re: Icon naming spec suggestions - mimetypes

2007-12-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 23:14 +0100, Jakob Petsovits wrote: > On Friday, 28. December 2007, Jan Claeys wrote: > > Op woensdag 26-12-2007 om 01:02 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Jakob > > Petsovits: > > > application-x-zerosize > > > The icon used for empty files. > > > > Why do those need a different

Re: Fwd: Question on icon theme

2007-12-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
hat's an excellent point. If you want to, I can add the pages in the > wiki. Please let me know which other areas are needed. > > Christopher > > 2007/12/12, Rodney Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > - Programming > - Graphic Design > - Data

Re: Fwd: Question on icon theme

2007-12-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
While having a list of icons that are not in the base specification is great, I don't think we should list icons as a per-desktop thing. The goal of icon themes, and the naming spec in particular, is that we can use the same icons on all desktops. I would much prefer the addendum specifications to

Re: locale specific for .desktop

2007-10-21 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 17:55 +0900, Takao Fujiwara - Tokyo S/W Center wrote: > Some of the applications are used on one locale only, e.g. Chinese > dictionary application, Japan road map application. > The situlation is, those applications are used for one country only, > the native persons require

Re: locale specific for .desktop

2007-10-21 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 20:28 +0900, Takao Fujiwara - Tokyo S/W Center wrote: > > Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > > 2007/10/18, Takao Fujiwara - Tokyo S/W Center <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >>The problem is the ability to show the limited locales only by default > >>installation. > >>If this feature is im

Re: locale specific for .desktop

2007-10-09 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 21:25 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > 2007/10/9, Thiago Macieira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > > >2007/10/9, Takao Fujiwara - Tokyo S/W Center <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> I think users want to use their icons and it depends on each user > > >> whether they

Re: locale specific for .desktop

2007-10-09 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 00:09 +0900, Takao Fujiwara wrote: > Could you check the following is the explanation of Icon for Desktop > Entry: > >Icon to display in file manager, menus, etc. If the name is an > absolute path, the given file will be used. If the name is not an > absolute path, th

Re: locale specific for .desktop

2007-10-09 Thread Rodney Dawes
I have to agree with Matthias here. Icons should a) be in the theme, and b) be in US-ASCII. The prior part is specified in the Icon Theme Spec, and the latter in the Icon Naming Spec. An application's icon should be named the same as the binary which is run to use the application. The behavior is

Re: locale specific for .desktop

2007-10-04 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:52 +0200, Sanel Zukan wrote: > > There are a number of locale specific problems for .desktop spec. > > > > #1. Language specific launcher options. > > I'ld like to switch the command options by languages. > > > > E.g. > > Name=Document > > Exec=gnome-open file:/usr/share/

Re: Category for a desktop tool needed

2007-08-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 15:59 +0200, Stanislav Brabec wrote: > Rodney Dawes wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 13:10 +0200, Stanislav Brabec wrote: > > > Rodney Dawes wrote: > > > > This would also solve the "Accessibility" "issue" that Stanislav brou

Re: Category for a desktop tool needed

2007-08-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 13:10 +0200, Stanislav Brabec wrote: > Rodney Dawes wrote: > > This would also solve the "Accessibility" "issue" that Stanislav brought > > up in his mail, wanting a category for "something that provides an > > additional service,

Re: Category for a desktop tool needed

2007-08-09 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 17:53 +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote: > * Vincent Untz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070809 10:53]: > > > > | Desktop | Desktop management | Utility, Settings or System | > > > > Hrm. I'm wondering if Core would be enough for what you want. > > Nope :( I need a primary and

Re: Category for a desktop tool needed

2007-08-08 Thread Rodney Dawes
Dock as in WM dock/system tray? or Dock as in desktop widget/gadget/whatever? -- dobey On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 17:11 +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote: > I need categories for a dock type application and its settings tool and non > of the available ones seem to fit. After discussing this with a collegue

Re: Icon name; task-passed-due

2007-08-02 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 10:34 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > Rodney Dawes wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 11:34 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > >> I think that proper US English would be "past due" > >> > >> Yes, the work 'passed' ex

Re: Icon name; task-passed-due

2007-08-02 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 11:34 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > I think that proper US English would be "past due" > > Yes, the work 'passed' exists but it has a different use. Normally used > to indicate that a physical object has been passed: I passed the ball; I > passed the car. But, an ac

Re: x-office-document

2007-07-19 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 11:25 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > Rodney Dawes wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 17:09 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > >> x-office-document > >> > >> The description for this: > >> > >>The icon used for gen

Re: x-office-document

2007-07-19 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 17:09 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > x-office-document > > The description for this: > > The icon used for generic document and letter file types > > is a bit ambiguous. If this is intended as a generic word processing > document, the description should clearly

Re: Actions: grouping vs. extensibility

2007-07-16 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 12:23 +0200, Jakob Petsovits wrote: > the major part of that all making sense is the generic type fallback > > Hi list, > > yesterday I started to tackle KDE's actions icons for icon naming spec > compliance, and I stumbled across a major bug in the spec, so to say, or at

Re: [kde-artists] Icon Naming: animations/process-working, & animations/process-idle

2007-07-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 11:38 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > Jakub Steiner wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 19:27 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > > > >> You are correct that it isn't in the spec (yet?). It is in the Tango > >> icons. Part of the problem, I guess. Tango and the Icon Nami

Re: Trusted vs Unstrusted MIME types

2007-07-09 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 11:57 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > On 7/9/07, Rodney Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One very important design heuristic that should be followed here is > > "Always let the user feel in control." > > I'd rather word that d

Re: Trusted vs Unstrusted MIME types

2007-07-08 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 22:38 -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: > >>>>> "Rodney" == Rodney Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> How can a type be "safe" or "unsafe"? Safeness depends on the > >> application. E.g. a p

Re: Trusted vs Unstrusted MIME types

2007-07-07 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 09:53 +, Thomas Leonard wrote: > How can a type be "safe" or "unsafe"? Safeness depends on the application. > E.g. a python script is safe if you open it with a text editor, but not if > you use a python interpreter. > > Perhaps applications that are designed to handle un

Re: [kde-artists] Icon Naming: animations/process-working, & animations/process-idle

2007-07-06 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 07:57 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > Rodney Dawes wrote: > > Everything in Tango isn't in the spec, and isn't meant to go in the > > spec. > > The Tango group might not agree with that, but anyway. It certainly is > starting to look

Re: [kde-artists] Icon Naming: animations/process-working, & animations/process-idle

2007-07-06 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 19:27 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > Jakob Petsovits wrote: > > On Wednesday, 4. July 2007, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > >> I note that the Icon Naming spec includes: > >> > >>animations/process-idle > >>animations/process-working > > > > Er, no, the naming spec

Re: Direction arrows.

2007-06-24 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 23:10 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > The Icon Naming Spec currently lacks icon names for the last two. > > Should we call these: > > view-previous > view-next > > of are there better ideas? media-skip-backward media-skip-forward ___

Re: xdg-utils xdg-icon-resource's destination icon name

2007-06-19 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 11:48 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > IIUC, we are currently working on an icon naming standard: > > http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html > > KDE will use this standard for the icon names in KDE4. I don't know > what GNOME's pl

Re: [Icon Theme Spec] Directory Layout

2007-06-16 Thread Rodney Dawes
This bug is about GTK+ theme paths, not Icon Themes. The argument of GTK following the Icon Theme spec is irrelevant here. -- dobey On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 09:53 +0200, Stephan Arts wrote: > Hi, > > I am sending this mail in response to this bug[0], regarding the > lookup if themes and icons insi

Re: Icon naming issue

2007-04-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 09:33 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: > On Saturday 28 April 2007 08:03:27 Rodney Dawes wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 22:34 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: > > > On Friday 27 April 2007 21:39:48 James Richard Tyrer wrote: > > > > Patryk Zawadzki

Device Specific Icons and the Icon Naming Specification

2007-03-04 Thread Rodney Dawes
I recently committed a couple of changes to the Icon Naming Spec, the largest of which is the addition of how to name device-specific icons, in the description of the Devices context. Also added were a few new base device icon names, such as scanner and camera-web. The text from the spec on how to

Re: Icon Theme spec question

2007-01-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 18:19 +0100, David Faure wrote: > On Monday 29 January 2007, Brian Mattern wrote: > > Would it make sense to require $XDG_DATA_DIRS/pixmaps as an additional > > > > fallback to handle installations outside of /usr? > > We added this directory in kde's implementa

Re: xdg-utils xdg-icon-resource's destination icon name

2007-01-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 15:50 -0800, Daniel Yek wrote: > What kind of response were expected? Response from desktop implementors? Or > Software Vendors? People subscribed to this mailing list. Preferably people involved in the development of applications or libraries that implement the specs in que

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