Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge

2011-02-23 Thread John Was
Dear David Yes - I'd worked that bit out. (But curiously, in Monotype Baskerville Open Type, which I was looking at for comparison, the ligatures work perfectly but are not identified by FontForge as ligatures in the look-up table. However, I have only viewed Baskerville in FontForge and have

Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge

2011-02-23 Thread Alexey Kryukov
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:33:34 -0500 David J. Perry wrote: > When you created the f_f_l and so forth in FontForge, did mark them > as ligatures and indicate the correct number of components? FontForge usually automatically recognizes glyph as a ligature when outputting a font, if this glyph has a l

Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge

2011-02-23 Thread David J. Perry
John, When you created the f_f_l and so forth in FontForge, did mark them as ligatures and indicate the correct number of components? (Characters in OT are classified as simple, ligatures, marks, components and something else I forget at the moment; ligatures also receive a value of 2, 3, etc

Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge

2011-02-23 Thread David J. Perry
- Original Message - From: "Meho R." To: "Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms" Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge Thanks for the link. However, even Adobe's OTF fonts have same problems when used with XeL

Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge

2011-02-23 Thread Peter Baker
On 2/23/11 9:27 AM, Meho R. wrote: That page provides an algorithm that is supposed to be used to convert glyph names into sequences of Unicode character points. If your glyphs are named according to it, and if the PDF software follows it too, then PDF software is supposed to be able to figure

Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge

2011-02-23 Thread Meho R.
On 23.02.2011 14:17, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2011, Meho R. wrote: > >> 4. The old problem about PDF search unfortunately still remains: only >> basic standard ligatures are recognized. I would be happy if someone >> knows a way to correct this during font creation or cor

Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge

2011-02-23 Thread Meho R.
On 23.02.2011 12:43, David Perry wrote: > John, > > I don't know if FontForge uses the same syntax as Adobe's FDK (also > used in FontLab), but I think it might. Here's how I do in > FontLab. (In FL if you don't specify a script and language it applies > Latin script and the default language, whi

Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge

2011-02-23 Thread mskala
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011, Meho R. wrote: > 4. The old problem about PDF search unfortunately still remains: only > basic standard ligatures are recognized. I would be happy if someone > knows a way to correct this during font creation or correcting existing > ones. I think the Adobe Glyph Naming Conven

Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge

2011-02-23 Thread John Was
Dear Alexy Many thanks - it may be easiest for me to import the feature at this stage (and then I can have a good look at what has been done so that I can figure what I've been doing wrong). Best wishes John - Original Message - From: "Alexey Kryukov" To: "Unicode-based TeX for

Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge

2011-02-23 Thread John Was
Dear David Many thanks. That looks exactly how I would expect it to be - though I am obviously not quite umderstanding what fontforge want me to do to get liga to work. I will keep at it and no doubt the penny will drop eventually. Best wishes John - Original Message - From: "Dav

Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge

2011-02-23 Thread Alexey Kryukov
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 06:43:56 -0500 David Perry wrote: > I don't know if FontForge uses the same syntax as Adobe's FDK (also > used in FontLab), but I think it might. FontForge has a graphical interface (similar to one of Volt) to set up OpenType features, but it can import Adobe feature files as

Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge

2011-02-23 Thread David Perry
John, I don't know if FontForge uses the same syntax as Adobe's FDK (also used in FontLab), but I think it might. Here's how I do in FontLab. (In FL if you don't specify a script and language it applies Latin script and the default language, which might be different in FontForge.) feature

Re: [XeTeX] Accessing ligatures from FontForge

2011-02-23 Thread John Was
Thanks to everyone for the advice. I don't use XeLaTeX so don't employ commands such as \defaultfontfeatures - this isn't how I access fonts in plain XeTeX. It's obvious (I think!) that I need to learn how to set up a liga table in FontForge, and indeed I thought I'd done just that, but it's