Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-23 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
I've been puzzled for a while because my TL2010 distribution appears to load Babel by default very early in the format file. E.g.,: $ xelatex This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.9997.4 (TeX Live 2010) restricted \write18 enabled. **\relax entering extended mode LaTeX2e 2009/09/24 Babel

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-23 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Dominik Wujastyk wrote: I've been puzzled for a while because my TL2010 distribution appears to load Babel by default very early in the format file. E.g.,: $ xelatex This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.9997.4 (TeX Live 2010) restricted \write18 enabled. **\relax

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-23 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
When xelatex is building it's format file, it gets to loading latex.ltx. That contains \InputIfFileExists{hyphen.cfg} {\typeout{===^^J% Local configuration file hyphen.cfg used^^J%

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-23 Thread Peter Dyballa
Am 23.11.2010 um 04:32 schrieb Vladimir Lomov: P.S. Something wrong with your TL setup because here I could compile the file without such messages. May be you switch off support for some languages? Yes, that's true! I did not think of this and assumed a failure in polyglossia... --

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-23 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
I don't think this started at TL 2010, Dominik; I have recollections of seeing Babel mentioned early in the log file in earlier releases, That has always been the case. What it really means is that hyphenation patterns have been loaded in the format, not that the Babel package is being used.

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-23 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
There are two hyphen.cfg files in TL2010, one for babel and one for luatex. Indeed, and the second one has been designed so as *not* to load hyphenation patterns when generating formats, because it is possible in LuaTeX to load patterns on the fly, unlike in any other TeX engine. This means

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-11-22 Thread Vladimir Lomov
Hi. 2010/11/23 Peter Dyballa peter_dyba...@web.de: Am 22.11.2010 um 15:40 schrieb Alexander: After upgrade to TL 2010 these commands not work. I see in my console log:  (/usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/xelatex/polyglossia/gloss-russian.ldf        Package polyglossia Warning: No

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-06-02 Thread Alexander
What's the reason in two versions polyglossiya in github? And when the new commands from babel would be ready for use? -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-31 Thread Vladimir Lomov
** Alexander [2010-05-29 10:57:05 +0900]: Hello. What the best way to use commands --- and others (works in babel with Russian language) in XeTeX with polyglossia? xe(la)tex is Unicode-aware tex engine so you don't need any special package or command to insert dashes. So just insert them into

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-31 Thread Vadim Radionov
Vladimir, You know, that Russian babel short-hands do slightly more than just insert a glyph from the font: they adjust the spacing around the em-dash (and the length of the dash, too), and allow hyphenation of adjacent words (in case of hyphens). So even in the case of Unicode input we need

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-31 Thread François Charette
On 31/05/2010 12:35, Vadim Radionov wrote: Vladimir, You know, that Russian babel short-hands do slightly more than just insert a glyph from the font: they adjust the spacing around the em-dash (and the length of the dash, too), and allow hyphenation of adjacent words (in case of hyphens). So

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-31 Thread Alexander
2010/5/31, Vadim Radionov vadim.radio...@gmail.com: Vladimir, You know, that Russian babel short-hands do slightly more than just insert a glyph from the font: they adjust the spacing around the em-dash (and the length of the dash, too), and allow hyphenation of adjacent words (in case of

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-31 Thread Vladimir Lomov
** Vadim Radionov [2010-05-31 14:35:21 +0400]: Vladimir, You know, that Russian babel short-hands do slightly more than just insert a glyph from the font: they adjust the spacing around the em-dash (and the length of the dash, too), and allow hyphenation of adjacent words (in case of

Re: [XeTeX] Question about polyglossia and babel

2010-05-29 Thread Alexey Kryukov
On Sat, 29 May 2010 10:25:24 -0400 Fr. Michael Gilmary wrote: The last command ( \defaultfontfeatures ) is what enables fontspec to use --- and as the standard (La)TeX does. However, with Xe(La)TeX, you can enter — and “ (or ” ) directly since that's part of the genius of XeTeX. The