On Sun, 12 May 2002, Davide Libenzi wrote:

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> On Sun, 12 May 2002, JT wrote:
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> > On Sun, 12 May 2002, Davide Libenzi wrote:
> > > Ok, the line :
> > >
> > > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > IS WRONG in the RFC822 mean. this is right :
> > >
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > David, there are *two* seperate things here.
> >
> > The line you are talking about 'From:' is an RFC822 header, yes.  It is
> > supplied COMPLETELY by the client/MUA used to send the mail initially.
> >
> > The line that I and Trish and Gerritt are talking about is the 'From '
> > line and it is the ENVELOPE SMTP transaction header.  It is created by ALL
> > unix mailers and PREPENDED to the mail BEFORE that mail is delivered to
> > any local mailbox, or pipe or handed off to anything other than another
> > MTA.   THIS line is what is required for stored mails to be considered to
> > be in Berkeley MBOX format.   This is what XMail is not adding to the mail
> > before it hands it off to a local pipe.  This is solely an issue with the
> > XMail MTA and not an issue with Listar/Ecartis.   You can fix this however
> > you like, either by fixing your MTA (which I strongly recommend), or by
> > adding something inbetween your MTA and Ecartis which adds this line
> > correctly.
>
> why should XMail add an MBOX specific line when it does not use the MBOX
> format ? XMail uses Maildir on Unix :
>
> http://www.qmail.org/qmail-manual-html/man5/maildir.html
>
> why should it add a "From ..." line that would be added to the message by
> breaking the headers section ? the correct fix is the econv.c filter
> program not XMail. i'm just curious, how does ecartis plan to work with
> Windows MTAs that do not give a damn about MBOX ? how does it work with
> qmail ( that uses Maildir ) ?
>

its got a configuration directive that works with mh/maildir style
mailboxen. I haven't actually used it, to be honest since I'm a
Sendmail/mbox type of girl, I haven't actually tested it and Rachel and
JT wrote it. I'm currently
trying to get the (broken) qmail port working on my laptop for testing.

As far as Windows MTA's, the windows work was a work in progress, and
AFAIK, never done. Gerrit and Francis have been doing much work to
actually get it to work, and for that I thank them.

qmail, does, by the way have options to write mbox files, and even pass to
procmail as a local mailer... So I'm pretty sure that qmail at least has
the ability to add that line... but again, not having gotten it to work
yet (I'm going to just install it from source instead, probably have an
easier time), I'm not sure.

I'm trying to work on having enough test machines that I can test with
different MTAs, it gets slightly expensive though when you aren;t working
*laugh*

I hope tonight finds all of us stress-free and taking a break :)

-Trish

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