Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Ben Gamari
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Dirk wrote: > Are you f&^$ing kidding me? :O No, I'm not. It's a perfectly valid question. > > By "disable" I mean I want "NO" mouse acceleration... With no mouse acceleration your cursor wouldn't move. Recall that acceleration is the second time derivative of po

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Dirk
>> The bottom sticker of my mouse says 2000 DPI... so I want to move the >> pointer 2000 pixels when i move the mouse an inch... NO MATTER HOW FAST I >> MOVE THE MOUSE. > These are device pixels, not screen pixels. I really hope you didn't > need me to explain this. Well... the thing I tried to e

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 18:58 +0100, Dirk wrote: > People who believe they need an accelerated pointer to click buttons or > move windows are not bright enough to realize the absence of > acceleration anyways. Sorry for not being bright enough for you, but I do enjoy acceleration. Xav _

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Dirk
Well, then you haven't had it re-enabling itself over and over again to interfere with your games, yet. Xavier Bestel wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 18:58 +0100, Dirk wrote: >> People who believe they need an accelerated pointer to click buttons or >> move windows are not bright enough to reali

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Bill Crawford
On Thursday 26 February 2009 18:13:01 Dirk wrote: > Well, then you haven't had it re-enabling itself over and over again to > interfere with your games, yet. > > Xavier Bestel wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 18:58 +0100, Dirk wrote: > >> People who believe they need an accelerated pointer to click

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Corbin Simpson
Dirk wrote: >>> The bottom sticker of my mouse says 2000 DPI... so I want to move the >>> pointer 2000 pixels when i move the mouse an inch... NO MATTER HOW FAST I >>> MOVE THE MOUSE. >> These are device pixels, not screen pixels. I really hope you didn't >> need me to explain this. > > > Well...

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Dirk
Corbin Simpson wrote: > Dirk wrote: The bottom sticker of my mouse says 2000 DPI... so I want to move the pointer 2000 pixels when i move the mouse an inch... NO MATTER HOW FAST I MOVE THE MOUSE. >>> These are device pixels, not screen pixels. I really hope you didn't >>> need me to

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 06:58:58PM +0100, Dirk wrote: > Right now I run a script that calls xset 30 times a minute with sleeps > as a cronjob to make sure it stays disabled. Why not jsut disable mouse accel in desktop environment preferences to not have gnome-settings-daemon¹ reseting it? ¹ o

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Ben Gamari
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Dirk wrote: > Well... the thing I tried to explain is that I (and other people) don't want > to /have/ to give a f***... > > 1) I plug in 2000 dpi mouse > 2) I move mouse 1 inch horizontally and/or vertically > 3) pointer moves 2000 pixels horizontally and/or vert

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Simon Thum
Dirk wrote: > Well I had read the xset manual but it kept re-enabling itself. I'd say it was re-enabled by something else. Probably your desktop environment. Yet, to Xorg, a notable difference. > I didn't know I had to read /many/ manuals to permanently disable mouse > acceleration in Linux... bu

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Dirk
Ben Gamari wrote: > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Dirk wrote: >> Well... the thing I tried to explain is that I (and other people) don't want >> to /have/ to give a f***... >> >> 1) I plug in 2000 dpi mouse >> 2) I move mouse 1 inch horizontally and/or vertically >> 3) pointer moves 2000 pixel

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Dirk
Simon Thum wrote: > Dirk wrote: >> Well I had read the xset manual but it kept re-enabling itself. > I'd say it was re-enabled by something else. Probably your desktop > environment. Yet, to Xorg, a notable difference. If even happens in fvwm1... >> I didn't know I had to read /many/ manuals to p

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Lukas Hejtmanek
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:07:25PM -0500, Ben Gamari wrote: > If you have a problem with HAL, report a bug. Uninstalling isn't the > answer. It is an increasingly common dependency on the desktop and for > good reason. I don't think there exists even one good reason for HAL to be a common dependen

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Dirk
Ben Gamari wrote: > because you might need your mouse to move exactly 2.3442 pixels per > millimeter doesn't mean that the rest of the world does as well. "there is no need for more than 640k RAM" ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Simon Thum
Dirk wrote: > I was referring to reading /many/ manuals as a relic of the nineties. Oh, I got that, I just used it as a starter :) > > I'll try this on another machine as soon as it is in debian/unstable (if > not already)... It would be great it this works and can't be overriden > by anything. If

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and?click buttons?

2009-02-26 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 05:56:33PM +, Bill Crawford wrote: > On Thursday 26 February 2009 18:13:01 Dirk wrote: > > Well, then you haven't had it re-enabling itself over and over again to > > interfere with your games, yet. > > > > Xavier Bestel wrote: > > > On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 18:58 +0100, Di

Re: [EDIT] Why do I need mouse acceleration to move windows and click buttons?

2009-03-03 Thread Nix
On 26 Feb 2009, Dirk uttered the following: > I don't think I'll make them stop developing HAL. I'm sorry, Dirk, I'm afraid we can't do that. (because *someone* had to say it) ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org