xkeyboard-config 2.3

2011-05-31 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
After some mess related to GNOME3 release, I am proud to present the
scheduled release of xkeyboard-config. A number of bugs were closed.
Troubled descriptions that went to 2.2, polished seriously. Thanks to
TP, a number of translations were seriously updated.

This release is recommended to use over 2.2 and 2.2.1. For people
still using gnome2 (or Ubuntu, up to 11.04) it is visually more
pleasant to stick to 2.1.

http://www.x.org/releases/individual/data/xkeyboard-config/xkeyboard-config-2.3.tar.bz2
http://www.x.org/releases/individual/data/xkeyboard-config/xkeyboard-config-2.3.tar.gz

The tag in git is xkeyboard-config-2.3

Bugzilla: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=xkeyboard-config

Get it while its hot!

Sergey
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Re: clip masks/simulating transparency

2011-05-31 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 15:28 +1000, Amy C wrote:
 Can anyone think of an alternative way to do this (have the penguins
 walk over a screen of my choosing and restore said window after
 they've passed through, without too much flickering?

You should use compositing of an ARGB pixmap. It will only work with a
compositor but nowadays all desktop use one (Compiz/Unity,
Mutter/GnomeShell, Kwin). Compositing is implemented much more
efficiently than windows shaping.

Xav

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Re: clip masks/simulating transparency

2011-05-31 Thread Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Hi!

I just wanted to say that I love the idea of what you are doing. If I get it 
right, xpenguins would then work with any DE (KDE/Gnome) without erasing the 
icont?

Nik

Am Dienstag, 31. Mai 2011 schrieb Amy C:
 Hi all,

 I've sort-of worked it out (I think??) but would still like suggestions on
 this.
 The penguins -are- being drawn using the clip mask correctly onto the
 window of my choice.

 The problem was that each penguin comprises a little animation (penguin is
 moving), and the expose event was only being sent once per animation, not
 after every single frame of the animation. Since the penguins move only a
 few pixels per animations (say 20 or so) it looked like the clip mask just
 wasn't working.

 I've modified the code to send an expose event after each frame of the
 animation is drawn (so truly after each penguin is drawn), but now (as
 expected) it looks very very flickery -- every cycle we get a XClearArea
 where the old penguin was, an XExposeEvent where the old penguin was, and a
 XCopyArea of the next frame of the animation.

 Can anyone think of an alternative way to do this (have the penguins walk
 over a screen of my choosing and restore said window after they've passed
 through, without too much flickering?) -- perhaps I can copy the relevant
 bit of background as the background of the penguin pixmap itself, although
 I think I'd need to send an XExposeEvent before I can grab the background?

 [So close! Soon I shall have penguins taking over my windows! SOON! bahaha]
 cheers
 Amy

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Re: clip masks/simulating transparency

2011-05-31 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 09:58 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 15:28 +1000, Amy C wrote:
  Can anyone think of an alternative way to do this (have the penguins
  walk over a screen of my choosing and restore said window after
  they've passed through, without too much flickering?
 
 You should use compositing of an ARGB pixmap. It will only work with a
 compositor but nowadays all desktop use one (Compiz/Unity,
 Mutter/GnomeShell, Kwin). Compositing is implemented much more
 efficiently than windows shaping.

My bad, I looked at the source, it doesn't use shaped windows.
Still, using composited windows per pinguin may be a win.

Xav

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Setting keyboard autorepeat rate with xkb?

2011-05-31 Thread Chris Frey
Hi,

In commit ae630aef17185dd8d2c23d0eb1b3287fa6e26268, Peter Hutterer
writes:

Really remove autorepeat.

This strips all autorepeat from the keyboard driver.
If you need autorepeat, use XKB.

So I've been trying to find the place in XKB to set the keyboard autorepeat
rate.  So far, I've been unsuccessful.

Google searches turn up lots of places that tell me to use xset, but
somehow this seems like a giant step backward.  And if the commit message
points me to XKB, there must be a way.

Can anyone give me any pointers?

Thanks,
- Chris

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Re: Setting keyboard autorepeat rate with xkb?

2011-05-31 Thread Marty Jack


On 05/31/2011 04:15 PM, Chris Frey wrote:
 Hi,
 
 In commit ae630aef17185dd8d2c23d0eb1b3287fa6e26268, Peter Hutterer
 writes:
 
   Really remove autorepeat.
 
   This strips all autorepeat from the keyboard driver.
   If you need autorepeat, use XKB.
 
 So I've been trying to find the place in XKB to set the keyboard autorepeat
 rate.  So far, I've been unsuccessful.
 
 Google searches turn up lots of places that tell me to use xset, but
 somehow this seems like a giant step backward.  And if the commit message
 points me to XKB, there must be a way.
 
 Can anyone give me any pointers?
 
 Thanks,
 - Chris
 
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XkbGetControls( , XkbRepeatKeysMask, );
xkb_desc-ctrls-repeat_interval = ;
XkbSetControls( , XkbRepeatKeysMask,)

Advice to use xset is a big hint because you can look at its code to find the 
programmatic way.


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Re: Setting keyboard autorepeat rate with xkb?

2011-05-31 Thread Chris Frey
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 05:26:26PM -0400, Marty Jack wrote:
 XkbGetControls( , XkbRepeatKeysMask, );
 xkb_desc-ctrls-repeat_interval = ;
 XkbSetControls( , XkbRepeatKeysMask,)
 
 Advice to use xset is a big hint because you can look at its code to find the 
 programmatic way.


Thanks.  I wasn't looking for the programmatic way, though.  I assumed
that if a config-file based autorepeat option was taken away, then there
would be a config-file based option available in xkb.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the role of xkb.  There appears to be lots of
config file support for multiple keyboard layouts, etc, but none for
autorepeat.

But from the above answer, it would appear that from the admin's point
of view, xset is the only way?  I find this so stunning that I'm
apparently asking dumb questions on the mailing list. :-)

Is xset really the only way?

Thanks,
- Chris

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Re: Setting keyboard autorepeat rate with xkb?

2011-05-31 Thread Marty Jack


On 05/31/2011 05:49 PM, Chris Frey wrote:
 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 05:26:26PM -0400, Marty Jack wrote:
 XkbGetControls( , XkbRepeatKeysMask, );
 xkb_desc-ctrls-repeat_interval = ;
 XkbSetControls( , XkbRepeatKeysMask,)

 Advice to use xset is a big hint because you can look at its code to find 
 the programmatic way.
 
 
 Thanks.  I wasn't looking for the programmatic way, though.  I assumed
 that if a config-file based autorepeat option was taken away, then there
 would be a config-file based option available in xkb.
 
 Maybe I'm misunderstanding the role of xkb.  There appears to be lots of
 config file support for multiple keyboard layouts, etc, but none for
 autorepeat.
 
 But from the above answer, it would appear that from the admin's point
 of view, xset is the only way?  I find this so stunning that I'm
 apparently asking dumb questions on the mailing list. :-)
 
 Is xset really the only way?
 
 Thanks,
 - Chris
 
 

Your average desktop environment has a way to configure it per user with 
persistent storage for the value.  If you aren't running a desktop environment, 
you would run xset somewhere in the startup script for the user session.  
There's always taking the default, which seems sensible enough to me for 
ordinary usage.
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Re: Setting keyboard autorepeat rate with xkb?

2011-05-31 Thread Chris Frey
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 06:09:35PM -0400, Marty Jack wrote:
 Your average desktop environment has a way to configure it per user
 with persistent storage for the value.  If you aren't running a desktop
 environment, you would run xset somewhere in the startup script for the
 user session.  There's always taking the default, which seems sensible
 enough to me for ordinary usage.

Thanks for your patience.  True, if I were using a desktop environment,
this would be a no-brainer.

I was just surprised that this setting got moved away from a consistent
location the same everywhere, to a location that depends on what desktop
or distro you use.

But xset will do. :-)

Thanks again,
- Chris

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Re: Setting keyboard autorepeat rate with xkb?

2011-05-31 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 05/31/11 03:16 PM, Chris Frey wrote:
 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 06:09:35PM -0400, Marty Jack wrote:
 Your average desktop environment has a way to configure it per user
 with persistent storage for the value.  If you aren't running a desktop
 environment, you would run xset somewhere in the startup script for the
 user session.  There's always taking the default, which seems sensible
 enough to me for ordinary usage.
 
 Thanks for your patience.  True, if I were using a desktop environment,
 this would be a no-brainer.
 
 I was just surprised that this setting got moved away from a consistent
 location the same everywhere, to a location that depends on what desktop
 or distro you use.

The commit you referred to was only in the kbd driver, which is hardly
consistent, as almost all Linux distros use the evdev driver, while kbd
is for non-Linux distros (BSD, Solaris, etc.).

The X server command line options -ardelay  -arinterval should still work
across all drivers  distros though - see Xserver(1) for details.

-- 
-Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com
 Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System

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Re: Setting keyboard autorepeat rate with xkb?

2011-05-31 Thread Chris Frey
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 03:31:37PM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
 The X server command line options -ardelay  -arinterval should still work
 across all drivers  distros though - see Xserver(1) for details.

Thanks.  I didn't know about those.

Is there any way to specify these options in xorg.conf, or similar file?
As far as I can tell from the manpage, these are command line only.

- Chris

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