Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-11-30 Thread Keith Packard
Around 0 o'clock on Dec 1, Boris wrote: > What XFree *really* needs is much more data compression when sending data > to a remote display I'm doing some packet level analysis of this problem; at ethernet speeds, most X applications spend a lot more time waiting for round trips than they do wait

Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-11-30 Thread Boris
What XFree *really* needs is much more data compression when sending data to a remote display. It seems XFree is being used more and more for diskless clients and to display remote screens. The X protocol uses alot of Bandwidth when dealing with *alot* of clients. - Original Message - From:

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extractinga KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-30 Thread bsder
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, David Dawes wrote: > I'm not particularly interested in using these lists to apply social > pressure. I'm only interested in a mechanism that provides an acceptably > low level of spam without imposing subscriber-only posting restrictions. Then why not simply use an email co

[Xpert]Adding InputRegion to SHAPE extension

2002-11-30 Thread Keith Packard
X11 has two kinds of windows -- InputOnly and InputOutput. InputOnly windows receive mouse and keyboard events just like InputOutput windows but have no graphical content so that underlying windows show through them. InputOutput windows receive input and also occlude underlying windows. Missing

Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-11-30 Thread Keith Packard
Around 3 o'clock on Dec 1, James Hawtin wrote: > The only problem with the fixes extension will people use it, as they > will have to write the code twice so it supports "legancy" ie not Xfree86 > systems. (thinking of selection tracking here) That's been the argument against such extensions over

Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-11-30 Thread James Hawtin
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Keith Packard wrote: > 2) Selection Tracking > > Applications like the KDE 'klipper' monitor selection contents to save > them and also perform actions based on them. Right now, this happens by > having these clients contantly polling the selection. > > The proposal is to hav

[Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-11-30 Thread Keith Packard
We've been working around various problems with the core X protocol for about 15 years now. I think it's time to build an extension that includes small changes that fix big problems. Such an extension would be limited to problems with existing core functionality that can be easily fixed in the

[Xpert]tinyx - (another) beginners question

2002-11-30 Thread Richard Kaestner
First, I am new to this list. If my question goes to the wrong list, pls direct me to the right one. Second, I am new to building (any) XFree from source (besides compiling FreeBSD's ports) - so forgive, if it's simply an "RTFM" (and point me to the right manual/document) Third: my question(s):

[Xpert]ati radeon 8500, dri r200 snapshot driver,X crash - Caught signal 11???

2002-11-30 Thread jozob
I have ATI RADEON 8500, 64 MB DDR."powered by ati". Hi, i have installed the newest snapshot R200 dri drivers, i have also installed the extras. But when i start X, it shows screen and cursor, but then immediately stops and shows me: Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting I am

[Xpert]DPMSQueryExtension undefined symbol

2002-11-30 Thread François Jan
Hi, I have updated my Red Hat from 7.3 to Red Hat 8.0 and I have this error ever since : [jan@paris jan]$ xset +dpms xset: relocation error: xset: undefined symbol: DPMSQueryExtension Here are the XFree packages installed on my computer : [jan@paris jan]$ rpm -qa|grep XFree XFree86-twm-4

Re: [Xpert]kdrive on freebsd?

2002-11-30 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
YT> Seems my mail got lost somehow... No, it didn't. I did reply. As far as I know, nobody is working on KDrive for *BSD. Porting the accelerated KDrive servers should be a triviality. Porting the generic server will be difficult until the FreeBSD folks either provide a framebuffer device or el