Re: [Yade-users] 3d view not working

2010-04-21 Thread ADERSH V K
Yes it worked for yade-0.12.1. I am using debian. To my memory, I didnt change any system's libs. Ya but, after 0.12.1, I tiried 0.20-2, that time some error occurred and installation failed. then I moved to bzr2066 (in which also 3d view didnt work) and now bzr2153. 2010/4/20 Václav Šmilauer

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation

2010-04-21 Thread chiara modenese
BTW, just found this paper that fits very well this discussion.. "Energy monitoring in distinct element models of particle systems" by Asmar, Langston, Matchett and Walters (2003) > > >> >> >> Bruno >> >> ___ >> Mailing list: >> https://launchpad.net/~y

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation + radius of fictious "box" sphere is now =r (not 2*r)

2010-04-21 Thread Bruno Chareyre
I've put the symmetric IGeom for box-sphere in this commit as well (removed the "2" factor). There is a chance that this change will result in bigger time-steps in some cases (i.e. saved cpu time), since the factor 2 was giving higher stiffness at box-sphere contacts compared to sphere-sphere

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation + radius of fictious "box" sphere is now =r (not 2*r)

2010-04-21 Thread Bruno Chareyre
It is commited now (r2170). I've put the symmetric IGeom for box-sphere in this commit as well (removed the "2" factor). I didn't test energy tracing at all yet. Any feedback is welcome. Bruno ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post t

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation

2010-04-21 Thread chiara modenese
On 21 April 2010 17:24, Bruno Chareyre wrote: > > >> BTW, a c++ question. Why are looping here over all the interactions if >> this is done in the interaction dispatcher? Sorry I am still learning :) >> Law2_ScGeom_FrictPhys_Basic is not inheriting from a periodic engine.. >> cheers, Chiara >> >>

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation

2010-04-21 Thread Bruno Chareyre
BTW, a c++ question. Why are looping here over all the interactions if this is done in the interaction dispatcher? Sorry I am still learning :) Law2_ScGeom_FrictPhys_Basic is not inheriting from a periodic engine.. cheers, Chiara plasticWork is never reset (except if the user write in pytho

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation

2010-04-21 Thread chiara modenese
2010/4/21 chiara modenese > > > On 21 April 2010 16:40, Bruno Chareyre wrote: > >> >> 2. current "trial" shear strain εT is computed*, with corresponding >>> trial stress σT(εT); for admissible state f(σN,|σT(εT)|)<=0, there is no >>> dissipation and the contact is done for this timestep. In ca

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation

2010-04-21 Thread chiara modenese
On 21 April 2010 16:40, Bruno Chareyre wrote: > > 2. current "trial" shear strain εT is computed*, with corresponding >> trial stress σT(εT); for admissible state f(σN,|σT(εT)|)<=0, there is no >> dissipation and the contact is done for this timestep. In case of >> non-admissible f(σN,|σT|)>0, s

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation

2010-04-21 Thread Bruno Chareyre
2. current "trial" shear strain εT is computed*, with corresponding trial stress σT(εT); for admissible state f(σN,|σT(εT)|)<=0, there is no dissipation and the contact is done for this timestep. In case of non-admissible f(σN,|σT|)>0, shear strain is modified** to have new value εT2 so that f(σ

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation

2010-04-21 Thread chiara modenese
On 21 April 2010 16:18, chiara modenese wrote: > > > On 21 April 2010 15:25, Bruno Chareyre wrote: > >> >> >>> Doesn't the problem with different plasticity condition come into play >>> only if you store shear force instead of strain? That would break for >>> non-linear elasticity...? >>> >>> >>

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation

2010-04-21 Thread chiara modenese
On 21 April 2010 15:25, Bruno Chareyre wrote: > > >> Doesn't the problem with different plasticity condition come into play >> only if you store shear force instead of strain? That would break for >> non-linear elasticity...? >> >> >> > Not sure it makes a difference. How do you define the plasti

[Yade-users] ImpactForce

2010-04-21 Thread Nasibeh Moradi
hi, I want to plot impact force of a body (this body impact on a plate), How can I get the forces on it? Nasibeh Moradi ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation

2010-04-21 Thread Václav Šmilauer
> > Doesn't the problem with different plasticity condition come into play > > only if you store shear force instead of strain? That would break for > > non-linear elasticity...? > Not sure it makes a difference. How do you define the plastic strain in > your case? I guess it uses plastic = total

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation

2010-04-21 Thread Bruno Chareyre
Doesn't the problem with different plasticity condition come into play only if you store shear force instead of strain? That would break for non-linear elasticity...? Not sure it makes a difference. How do you define the plastic strain in your case? I guess it uses plastic = total - elasti

[Yade-users] equilibrium distance in FrictPhys?

2010-04-21 Thread Bruno Chareyre
Is anybody using these? If not, I'll remove them. Bruno ,equilibriumDistance// equilibrium distance ,initialEquilibriumDistance// initial equilibrium distance ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@l

Re: [Yade-users] harmonic average of stiffness

2010-04-21 Thread Bruno Chareyre
Is this explanation at least a little understandable and useful? :-) It is an interesting explanation, I didn't put it exactly that way before, but I buy this. My simplest explanation is actually in the documentation of the class, let me know if it is not clear enough : /"The complian

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation

2010-04-21 Thread Václav Šmilauer
> I agree with that. > My previous remark on "discrete" changes in forces was just to point out > that you don't define directly the increment of plastic deformation in > the incremental formulation. You have a total deformation > (elastic+plastic) even on one time increment (with non linear >

Re: [Yade-users] Energy dissipation

2010-04-21 Thread chiara modenese
2010/4/20 Bruno Chareyre > On the same line : the energy dissipated by Cundall's damping in > quasi-satic conditions is negligeable. You find that the work input from > boundaries equals more or less plastic+elastic work at contacts (tests with > pfc3D, damping~0.2, frictional contacts, ~50k iter