Re: [yocto] [yocto-autobuilder2][PATCH] schedulers: metrics: Start again with master for the daily full download

2024-03-16 Thread Yoann Congal
(Replying to myself to keep conclusion of an IRC discussion) Le sam. 16 mars 2024 à 00:29, Yoann Congal a écrit : > Change the order of metrics branches: > * First, master at 5am which may do the full CVE download (might take > 1 hour to finish). > * Then, the other branches sta

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder2][PATCH] schedulers: metrics: Start again with master for the daily full download

2024-03-15 Thread Yoann Congal
(at 8am) Compared with commit 839c3cedbf6f ("schedulers: metrics: Start with master for the daily full download"), the last part is new. Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- schedulers.py | 9 +++-- 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/schedulers.py b/scheduler

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH 1/2] run-cvecheck: Split out the chart generation code

2024-03-15 Thread Yoann Congal
), ... we can run-cvecheck on master first while keeping run-cvecharts last. Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- scripts/run-cvecharts | 79 +++ scripts/run-cvecheck | 13 --- 2 files changed, 79 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-) create mode 100755 scripts/run

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH 2/2] config.json: metrics: Add new metrics-charts builder

2024-03-15 Thread Yoann Congal
This builder generates global chart data from individual branch metrics. By splitting it out of metrics we can simplify metrics and schedule it more freely. This builder should be scheduled after metrics has been run for every branch. Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- config.json | 17

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder2][PATCH] schedulers: metrics: Start with master for the daily full download

2024-03-13 Thread Yoann Congal
Change the order of metrics branches: * First, master at 5am which may do the full CVE download (might take 1 hour to finish). * Then, the other branches starting at 6am to allow them to use the fresh download. Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- schedulers.py | 6 -- 1 file changed, 4

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH] config.json: metrics: Switch to daily CVE DB full-download

2024-03-13 Thread Yoann Congal
. That will workaround NVD API limitations were some updates may be missed and the incrementaly updated database is not equivalent to a freshly downloaded database. Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- This patch depends on [PATCH 2/2] cve-update-nvd2-native: Add an age threshold for incremental update

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH v2 2/2] config.json: meta-oe-repro: fix meta-networking -> meta-python dependency

2024-03-03 Thread Yoann Congal
Since [0], meta-networking depends on meta-python. So, add meta-python layer wherever meta-networking is used. [0]: https://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/commit/?id=ab7c469bfeb7aba97402d8eab03d9bb18725c6af Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- config.json | 2 ++ 1 file changed, 2

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH v2 1/2] config.json: meta-oe-repro: exclude packages that failed previously

2024-03-03 Thread Yoann Congal
, TMPDIR path, ...). Actual non-repros were not excluded : * drbd-utils: a udev rule is either enabled or disabled * apache2: a index.html is present or not in the package * toybox-inittab: a getty is started or not on serial ports Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- v1->v2: * Added non-reproduci

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH] config.json: meta-oe-repro: exclude packages that failed previously

2024-02-28 Thread Yoann Congal
: a udev rule is either enabled or disabled * apache2: a index.html is present or not in the package * toybox-inittab: a getty is started or not on serial ports Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- config.json | 29 ++--- 1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH] config.json: meta-oe-repro: exclude python3-pandas* from repro test

2024-02-17 Thread Yoann Congal
-20240217-j7swf3az/packages/diff-html/ Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- config.json | 3 ++- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/config.json b/config.json index 3032fd7..1596d1e 100644 --- a/config.json +++ b/config.json @@ -429,7 +429,8

[linux-yocto] [kernel-cache][PATCH] README.md: Fix mailing list URL

2024-02-15 Thread Yoann Congal
Current URL returns "404 page not found". Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- README.md | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/README.md b/README.md index 214a3a7f..3330bcde 100644 --- a/README.md +++ b/README.md @@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ Patches to the kernel meta d

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder2][PATCH] schedulers: decrease frequency of meta-oe-mirror on stable branches

2024-01-26 Thread Yoann Congal
Since the stable meta-oe branches tend to be updated once a month. Run meta-oe-mirror twice a month to be sure to catch every update. Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- schedulers.py | 15 +-- 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) diff --git a/schedulers.py b/schedulers.py

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder2][PATCH] schedulers: Run reproducible-meta-oe for master once a week on weekends

2024-01-23 Thread Yoann Congal
Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- schedulers.py | 4 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) diff --git a/schedulers.py b/schedulers.py index 561f2b4..edd77b5 100644 --- a/schedulers.py +++ b/schedulers.py @@ -476,6 +476,10 @@ schedulers.append(sched.Nightly(name='nightly-check-layer', branch

Re: [yocto] [yocto-autobuilder2] [PATCH] schedulers: Drop mickledore for meta-oe/layer-checks

2024-01-20 Thread Yoann Congal
toproject.org > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto/leave/7785375/4316185/289819188/xyzzy > [yoann.con...@smile.fr] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- Yoann Congal Smile ECS - Tech expert -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#62205

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][dunfell][PATCH] config.json: Make meta-oe source mirror config wider coverage (polkit)

2024-01-16 Thread Yoann Congal
Some recipes (gnome-settings-daemon, accountsservice) depend on polkit DISTRO_FEATURES. Set this up so that we get wider source mirror coverage and fewer warnings. Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- config.json | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/config.json b

Re: [yocto] Menuconfig saving erased after bitbake clean

2024-01-09 Thread Yoann Congal
rmation on how to keep the defconfig can be found here : https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev/kernel-dev/common.html#using-menuconfig (You may want to use the documentation of your specific branch) Regards, > > > Thanks > Hassan > > > > -- Yoann Congal Smile ECS -

Re: [yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][dunfell][PATCH] config.json: Make meta-oe source mirror config wider coverage

2024-01-02 Thread Yoann Congal
use the old syntax in this case to match what is documented in local.conf template, recipe comments, etc. But it is nice to know :) > On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 7:07 PM Yoann Congal <mailto:yoann.con...@smile.fr>> wrote: > > Some recipes depend on DISTRO_FEATURES, commercial lic

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][dunfell][PATCH] config.json: Make meta-oe source mirror config wider coverage

2024-01-02 Thread Yoann Congal
the source code. Signed-off-by: Richard Purdie (cherry picked from commit 93d47af8abbc6558f9a098a0c7fa6c0e901424a9) Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal Backport: new->old override syntax --- This should fix the warnings of the AB meta-oe-mirror/dunfell builds --- config.json | 6 +- 1 file chan

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][kirkstone][PATCH] config.json: Make meta-oe source mirror config wider coverage

2024-01-02 Thread Yoann Congal
or using it, only mirroring the source code. Signed-off-by: Richard Purdie (cherry picked from commit 93d47af8abbc6558f9a098a0c7fa6c0e901424a9) Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- This will fix many AB warnings for meta-oe-mirror/kirkstone configuration --- config.json | 6 ++ 1 file changed, 6

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH] config.json: reproducible-meta-oe: Add missing USERADD_UID/GID_TABLES

2023-11-15 Thread Yoann Congal
Some USERADD_UID/GID_TABLES were missing for lower layers which caused some recipes to be not buildable because of skipped recipes (e.g. xfmpc, python3-ldap) Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- config.json | 13 +++-- 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH] config.json: reproducible-meta-oe: add meta-webserver static GIDs

2023-11-15 Thread Yoann Congal
This is needed to fix a reproducibility error in netdata. Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- This depends on a patch in meta-oe/meta-webserver: [meta-webserver][PATCH] static-id: add missing netdata group https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/106765 --- config.json | 1 + 1

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH] config.json: reproducible-meta-oe: exclude known repro fails

2023-11-15 Thread Yoann Congal
Use the new OEQA_REPRODUCIBLE_EXCLUDED_PACKAGES to not trigger a test failure on the known not-reproducible packages from meta-openembedded. Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- config.json | 15 --- 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/config.json b/config.json

Re: [yocto] Devtool fails if SRCREV is set to ${AUTOREV} #kirkstone #devtool #yocto

2023-11-08 Thread Yoann Congal
oks really interesting. I've added your proposed fix to https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14918#c3 (the matching bug that does happen to be assigned to me) I'll try to look at what you sent in the next few days but in the meantime, if you can/want you can always send this

Re: [yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH v3] AUH: Add Openembedded auto-update-helper with list of layer to test

2023-11-02 Thread Yoann Congal
ptions parser. I'd strongly > suggest dropping layer_machines variable and just use the machines > value in all cases. > > "layer-mode" seems pointless as you can determine if we're in "layer > mode" if a layer is specified on the commandline (whi

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH v4 2/2] config.json: Extend AUH to meta-openembedded layers

2023-11-02 Thread Yoann Congal
Add each a new builder "auh-meta-oe" and one step by meta-openembedded layers. Co-authored-by: David Pierret Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- config.json | 126 1 file changed, 126 insertions(+) diff --git a/config.json b/config.

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH v4 0/2] Extend auto-upgrade helper to meta-openembedded

2023-11-02 Thread Yoann Congal
ipt setup/run-auh inlined) Yoann Congal (2): config.json: Move AUH from custom scripts to config.json config.json: Extend AUH to meta-openembedded layers config.json | 152 ++- scripts/auh-config/local.conf.append | 5 - scripts/run-

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH v4 1/2] config.json: Move AUH from custom scripts to config.json

2023-11-02 Thread Yoann Congal
setup-auh and run-auh were doing what the AB config.json does: * creating repo checkouts: Now use NEEDREPOS * configuring bitbake env: Now use extravars This refactoring is needed to prepare adding AUH meta-oe support. Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- config.json | 26

[yocto] [master-next][yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH] config.json: force RECIPE_MAINTAINER for meta-oe layers

2023-11-01 Thread Yoann Congal
Without it, auto-upgrade-helper skip most of the recipes because they do not have a specific maintainer. Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- config.json | 30 ++ 1 file changed, 30 insertions(+) diff --git a/config.json b/config.json index 6143969..ddf015f 100644

Re: [yocto] [auh][PATCH 0/6] Extend AUH to meta-openembedded

2023-11-01 Thread Yoann Congal
Le 01/11/2023 à 01:05, Yoann Congal a écrit : > v2->v3: > * Split single patch in a series. Previous version was: > [auh][PATCH v2] upgrade-helper.py: Add layer command line option I've just noticed that the "v3" tag is missing from the mail subject. Sorry about that

[yocto] [auh][PATCH 6/6] weeklyjob.sh: Add options to handle upgrading meta-oe

2023-10-31 Thread Yoann Congal
For example: ./weeklyjob.sh --layer-dir ../meta-openembedded/ --layer-names "meta-oe" Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- weeklyjob.sh | 59 +++- 1 file changed, 58 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/weeklyjob.sh b/weeklyjob.sh ind

[yocto] [auh][PATCH 5/6] upgrade-helper.py: Add layer command line option

2023-10-31 Thread Yoann Congal
From: David Pierret - Layer options can be defined as command line arguments - multiple layers can be defined in a single command each layer is analyzed 1 by 1 to check if upgrades are available. Signed-off-by: David Pierret Reviewed-by: Yoann Congal --- upgrade-helper.py | 68

[yocto] [auh][PATCH 4/6] upgrade-helper.py: Fix indentation

2023-10-31 Thread Yoann Congal
Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- upgrade-helper.py | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/upgrade-helper.py b/upgrade-helper.py index bc485b8..4933a4a 100755 --- a/upgrade-helper.py +++ b/upgrade-helper.py @@ -677,7 +677,7 @@ class UniverseUpdater(Updater

[yocto] [auh][PATCH 3/6] upgrade-helper.py: extract the inner function of get_packages_to_upgrade

2023-10-31 Thread Yoann Congal
This is to prepare for the futur loop on layers. Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- upgrade-helper.py | 23 --- 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) diff --git a/upgrade-helper.py b/upgrade-helper.py index 2538d61..bc485b8 100755 --- a/upgrade-helper.py +++ b

[yocto] [auh][PATCH 2/6] upgrade-helper.py: refactor _get_packages_to_upgrade to return a dict

2023-10-31 Thread Yoann Congal
Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- upgrade-helper.py | 32 1 file changed, 24 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) diff --git a/upgrade-helper.py b/upgrade-helper.py index 57bf59a..2538d61 100755 --- a/upgrade-helper.py +++ b/upgrade-helper.py @@ -440,15 +440,23 @@ class

[yocto] [auh][PATCH 1/6] upgrade-helper.py: simplify a condition

2023-10-31 Thread Yoann Congal
Both branches contained the same code Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- upgrade-helper.py | 4 +--- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/upgrade-helper.py b/upgrade-helper.py index 1176a73..57bf59a 100755 --- a/upgrade-helper.py +++ b/upgrade-helper.py @@ -674,9 +674,7

[yocto] [auh][PATCH 0/6] Extend AUH to meta-openembedded

2023-10-31 Thread Yoann Congal
id Pierret (1): upgrade-helper.py: Add layer command line option Yoann Congal (5): upgrade-helper.py: simplify a condition upgrade-helper.py: refactor _get_packages_to_upgrade to return a dict upgrade-helper.py: extract the inner function of get_packages_to_upgrade upgrade-h

Re: [yocto] [PATCH yocto-autobuilder-helper 2/2] config.json: add meta-oe to the metrics target

2023-10-31 Thread Yoann Congal
his only lists issues in meta-oe. > > Signed-off-by: Ross Burton Thanks Ross! Reviewed-by: Yoann Congal > --- > config.json | 29 - > 1 file changed, 24 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/config.json b/config.json > index f3a4ee

Re: [yocto] [PATCH yocto-autobuilder-helper 1/2] Rewrite metrics-gathering scripts

2023-10-31 Thread Yoann Congal
metric addition as patchreview itself does > that now. > > Add an explicit --push option so it's easy to test the scripts in > isolation without pushing. > > Signed-off-by: Ross Burton Thanks Ross! Reviewed-by: Yoann Congal > --- > config.json| 14 ++

Re: [yocto] Http access token fetching with gitsm fetcher

2023-10-20 Thread Yoann Congal
n WONTFIX bug : https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13550 See : https://git.openembedded.org/bitbake/tree/lib/bb/fetch2/gitsm.py#n127 The only supported way to do this (that I know of) is to use .netrc as Adrian suggested. Regards, -- Yoann Congal Smile ECS - Tech expert -=-

Re: [yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH] config.json: add a workaround for the "autobuilderlog.json" error

2023-10-19 Thread Yoann Congal
dir. >> >> Also, switch from BBPATH to BUILDDIR to reference the main build dir. >> >> [1]: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15241 >> >> Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal >> --- >> config.json | 20 ++-- >> 1 f

[yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH] config.json: add a workaround for the "autobuilderlog.json" error

2023-10-18 Thread Yoann Congal
i?id=15241 Signed-off-by: Yoann Congal --- config.json | 20 ++-- 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-) diff --git a/config.json b/config.json index c01a453..84da67b 100644 --- a/config.json +++ b/config.json @@ -303,7 +303,7 @@ ],

Re: [yocto] [yocto-autobuilder-helper][PATCH] config.json : reproducible-meta-oe build fixes

2023-10-10 Thread Yoann Congal
Le mar. 10 oct. 2023 à 15:14, Richard Purdie a écrit : > That isn't actually valid json but I fixed it and will schedule a test > build. Huh, sorry about that :( > I also tweaked the shortnames to make it clear it is meta-OE as > "OE" isn't very specific. Thanks! --

Re: [yocto] devtool build error

2023-10-04 Thread Yoann Congal
rd to tell for sure which one will be shorter for you. 1) is definitely better for the community so I encourage you to try it ;) Regards, > Regards > Simon > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 3, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Yoann CONGAL wrote: > >  > Hello, > > Le mer.

Re: [yocto] devtool build error

2023-10-04 Thread Yoann Congal
information/context for the bug? Regards, -- Yoann Congal Smile ECS > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#61227): https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto/message/61227 Mute This Topic: https://lists.yoctoproject

Re: [yocto] Poky/Mickledore bitbake menuconfig does not work

2023-09-30 Thread Yoann Congal
Le mer. 20 sept. 2023 à 19:59, Yoann CONGAL a écrit : > Le mar. 19 sept. 2023 à 18:57, Sebert, Holger.ext < > holger.sebert@karlstorz.com> a écrit : > >> Hi Yoann, hi Zoran, >> > > Hi, > > >> The bug is not present on the Poky master branch. >

Re: [yocto] bbappend not working for recipe with git in name

2023-09-25 Thread Yoann Congal
-nxp89xx.bb I have tried _git instead of _%. > > I have also tried 1.0, since bitbake -e reports: > > PV="1.0" > > What should I be doing? Nothing in the bbappend does anything, unless I > make it invalid, then I get an error. > > SRCREV is set in this recipe as

Re: [yocto] Poky/Mickledore bitbake menuconfig does not work

2023-09-20 Thread Yoann Congal
mbedded-core/message/187934 Regards, > Thanks! > > -Holger > > ________ > Von: Yoann CONGAL > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. September 2023 23:52 > An: Sebert, Holger.ext > Cc: Zoran Stojsavljevic; Yocto-mailing-list > Betreff: [Ext] Re:

Re: [yocto] Poky/Mickledore bitbake menuconfig does not work

2023-09-14 Thread Yoann Congal
terminal("sh -c \"%s; if [ \\$? -ne 0 ]; then echo 'Command > failed.'; printf 'Press any key to continue... '; read r; fi\"" % make_cmd, > > d.getVar('PN') + ' Configuration', d) > This patch looks interesting! I would use s

Re: [yocto] Memory requirements for building images with different architectures

2023-09-08 Thread Yoann Congal
e. Every important piece of built software is kept in the "sstate cache" and this cache is not removed by rm_work. I usually have rm_work activated globally and reasonable build time : most things are not re-built but taken from the sstate cache. Regards, -- Yoann Congal Smile ECS - Tech

[yocto] https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/ certificate expired

2023-06-13 Thread Yoann Congal
Hi, It seems like the https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/ certificate has expired :( "notAfter=Jun 13 03:28:00 2023 GMT" Regards, -- Yoann Congal Smile ECS - Tech expert -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#602

Re: [yocto] [PATCH yocto-autobuilder-helper] auh: publish output on https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/auh/

2023-05-04 Thread Yoann Congal
On 4/28/23 09:01, Alexander Kanavin wrote: > AUH itself already has an option to include the link into > its email reports; the option just needs to be enabled. > > [YOCTO #15103] > > Signed-off-by: Alexander Kanavin Looks good to me! Reviewed-by: Yoann Congal Thanks! &g

Re: [yocto] Skipping recipes depending on MACHINE

2023-03-08 Thread Yoann Congal
o COMPATIBLE_MACHINE? => https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-COMPATIBLE_MACHINE Looks like a perfect match for what you are trying to do! Regards, -- Yoann Congal -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#59372): http

Re: [yocto] Importance of ECC RAM on the build computer

2023-02-17 Thread Yoann Congal
ird behavior which may be hard to debug and time consuming. My advice is : keep your time and sanity, use ECC RAM. Regards, -- Yoann Congal Smile ECS - Expert technique -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#59237): https://lists.yoctop

Re: [yocto] Git repo setup for Yocto upstream contribution

2023-01-09 Thread Yoann Congal
! Alex On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 at 14:05, Yoann Congal wrote: Hi, Since I plan to work regularly on upstream Yocto and contributing, I wonder about the best way to best setup my git repos to do that... I've started with the upstream poky repo but when I make a commit on, for example, bitbake, my

[yocto] Git repo setup for Yocto upstream contribution

2023-01-07 Thread Yoann Congal
w...? To the Yocto maintainers, how do you manage this (poky repo, combo-layer and individual bitbake/doc/meta-yocto repo) ? Note: I have found the "combo-layer splitpatch" tool but it does not look like a full solution... Maybe I'm missing something? Thanks! -- Yoann Congal ("yoct

Re: [yocto] #bitbake Can't get application sources from private git using SSH keys #bitbake #yocto

2021-07-29 Thread Yoann Congal
lone command line. You may need to change it to a '/' SRC_URI = "git://g...@.com/xxx/xxx.git;protocol=ssh;" This is a frequent error (I make it at least once per project) Hope this helps! Regards, -- Yoann Congal Smile ECS - Expert technique -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Link

Re: [yocto] what to include in a "hardware bringup image"?

2021-04-20 Thread Yoann Congal
a sensor value or enable a PMIC regulator. I'm interested in the list of packages you'll end up with... Will you share it here ? Regards, -- Yoann Congal Smile ECS - Expert technique -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#53188): https