RE: [Zen] Re: Dear Bill

2008-07-22 Thread BillSmart
Chuck, Thanks as always for your post. You are not wrong in the history, genealogy and classification of zen you present in your post attached below. This is the generally accepted position - that zen is an outgrowth and sub-set of Buddhism. I disagree with that for several reasons, but that re

RE: [Zen] Re: Dear Bill

2008-07-22 Thread Chuck Gierhart
Bill, You say: "I also beleive, as you do, that zen and Buddhism are not the same. I beleive Buddhism is a religion and is a sub-set of zen, and so are most other religions -" I thought Zen, including Soto, Rinzai and Obaku, are part of the Mahayana school of Buddhism and a direct o