Re: [Zen] New Member

2010-11-28 Thread ED
Chris, Do you not believe that there *is* merit in discussing various possible motivations for Zen practice, and what we hope to gain from it for ourelves and/or for humankind (if anything at all?) Thanks, ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, ChrisAustinLane ch...@... wrote: Pardon my

Re: [Zen] Thanks for an engaging listserv!

2010-11-28 Thread Lluís Mendieta
Hi, Mayka Thanks a lot for the link. I am right now listening to it. With best wishes Lluís - Original Message - From: Maria Lopez To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] Thanks for an engaging listserv! Chris

Re: [Zen] New Member

2010-11-28 Thread ChrisAustinLane
On Nov 28, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Lana M. Gibbons lana.m.gibb...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't doing anything for gain (even good gain) contrary to Zen in the first place? I would say that the effort to achieve results is more likely to crinkle up your mind than to allow you to stop doing the things

Re: [Zen] New Member

2010-11-28 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Rose P things_r...@yahoo.com wrote: The 'why' seems to me to be a very important question, esp for beginners like me who are looking for some sort of inspiration (totally not the right word, but don't have a better one) from those who have been practicing a

RE: [Zen] New Member

2010-11-28 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-28 Thread BillSmart
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Re: [Zen] New Member

2010-11-28 Thread ED
Bill, Exactly! In my case, a long time ago I was in great mental suffering and confusion. I accidentally discovered Zen literature and took to it. I did group zazen and private Zazen and enjoyed both - as well as the chanting, rituals, discipline and non-rational stories. Therefore, if anyone

Re: [Zen] New Member

2010-11-28 Thread ED
Chris, Thank you so much for this gift of yourself from you to us. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@... wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2010, Rose P wrote: The 'why' seems to me to be a very important question, esp for beginners like me who are looking for some

RE: [Zen] New Member

2010-11-28 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Breathing in Zazen

2010-11-28 Thread BillSmart
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