Re: [Zen] eternity and you

2012-09-24 Thread Joe
Bill, howdy, A feller in the 1960s in USA -- Abbie Hoffmann, or Jerry Rubin? -- famously said, once, or twice, that: "All the -isms are -wasm's. Funny! (but premature, it turned out). Forty-four years after, we still have Buddhism, Nudism, Judaism, Islam-ism, Humanism, Capitalism, Socialism,

Re: [Zen] eternity and you

2012-09-24 Thread William Rintala
Merle:      My initial post was to wish you a happy Birthday.  But then your post mentioned that you were "another year older and closer to the blue blue younger the never never land". That sounded negative and started me thinking about my concepts of time and space.  My hammer is not

[Zen] post-if-erous-ness

2012-09-24 Thread Joe
Group, howdy, Even with a week left in the month, the month of September this year has been a "record-" year for the group in the sense that there are now, today, more posts in one month (three weeks!) than at any other full-monthly span in this Group's 12-year history. Just noting this, as so

Re: [Zen] the green dragon

2012-09-24 Thread Joe
Merle, Time is priceless. --Joe PS Happy birthday! > Merle Lester wrote: > > time is timeless... merle Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group

Re: [Zen] the green dragon

2012-09-24 Thread Joe
Edgar, Tee-hee! "Correct" as of ...LAST YEAR! It's NOW a year OLDER! How time flies... . --Joe > Edgar Owen wrote: > > Chris, > > The correct age of the universe is 13.7 BILLION years... > > Edgar Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recen

Re: [Zen] the green dragon

2012-09-24 Thread Joe
Bill, William, Right, William, I'd talk about hundreds of millions, or billions of years, cosmologically. Or, about the decades since Woodstock. No hammers for hitting, though, OK? Lighten-up: use a Kyosaku! I make some good ones. Interested? Ten percent surcharge for you! ;-) --Joe > W

Re: [Zen] blue blue yonder......

2012-09-24 Thread Joe
Dear Anthony, A wonderful thing is that all our feet meet in the middle of the Earth. "We" reach out from there. There is only One being. (speechless), --Joe > Anthony Wu wrote: > > Merle, > > Happy birthday and enjoy your life upside down. > > From Anthony, downside up. --

Re: [Zen] the green dragon

2012-09-24 Thread Joe
Merle, Please, please, *don't*, don't ever, say that things are "so zen", or "Zen"; it just has no referent. There's nothing there. Anyone hearing that will suspect you of never having practiced. Stop now and be forever safe. Only non-practitioners use such un-informed lingo. True! I say t

Re: [Zen] the lotus

2012-09-24 Thread Joe
Yes, Merle. I respect it, and lament it; and I let it go. In my alternative history, he would have married Linda McCartney. Or someone. --Joe > Merle Lester wrote: > >joe let it go it was john's choice and you have to respect that!..merle Current

Re: [Zen] the gospel of....

2012-09-24 Thread Joe
Mister Snidely: Can't you see a rhetorical question for what it is? It's also polite. But you don't know that culture, yet. Oh, well. Ever the critic in left field?; Lamentations. It won't be so forever. --Joe > Kristopher Grey wrote: > > On 9/20/2012 5:43 PM, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Please l

Re: [Zen] the gospel of....

2012-09-24 Thread Joe
Anthony, That testament is *Old*, though. ;-) Some break-away Jews (Christians) say it's been supplanted. The Republican candidate for US President believes it's been supplanted yet *AGAIN*, recently, with help from drug-taking natives of North America in the state of Utah. Personally, I fee

Re: [Zen] the gospel of....

2012-09-24 Thread Joe
Kris, Roger that. Manjushri exemplifies this (good observation!). Thank you; It *has* to be held. Else, negatory. Sword of Wisdom is no mere Metaphor. A sword is a sword is a machete. Cutting creepers: "Get at the Root, not the Branches". That is Zen Practice. That is the essence, and all

[Zen] intelligence

2012-09-24 Thread Merle Lester
   the dunce...jacques prevert french poet born 1900 "he says no with his head  but he says yes with his heart  he says yes to what he loves he says no to the teacher  he stands he is questioned  and all the problems are posed  sudden laughter seizes him  and he erases all the words the f

Re: [Zen] Re: Underground (part 1) - YouTube

2012-09-24 Thread Merle Lester
   part and parcel of life B...you give up and you only "looked at the cover of the book". ..life is disturbing. .the joy of this film it is real life and there is hope. ..test it out..all of it. .. you will not be disturbed at the finish.. . and your heart will sing like it has never sang be

[Zen] eternity and you

2012-09-24 Thread Merle Lester
thank you B...for the birthday wishes .. so B... . who are you really?..speak more of Thee and pray who are YOU? .. sorry i meant to write the "blue blue yonder." ..why would i question youR take on life? .why would i deny your understanding and your learning of life?.. .. why are you striking

Re: [Zen] the green dragon

2012-09-24 Thread Merle Lester
 time is timeless... merle   Or 13,700 Million.  It's not a British Billion yet, still a few orders of magnitude to go. Not sure why I switched the 3 to a 4.  Perils of the continuous advance of knowledge after one leaves school.  Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Sep 24

Re: [Zen] the green dragon

2012-09-24 Thread ChrisAustinLane
Or 13,700 Million. It's not a British Billion yet, still a few orders of magnitude to go. Not sure why I switched the 3 to a 4. Perils of the continuous advance of knowledge after one leaves school. Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Sep 24, 2012, at 12:52, Edgar Owen wrot

Re: [Zen] the green dragon

2012-09-24 Thread Kristopher Grey
MU! On 9/24/2012 3:52 PM, Edgar Owen wrote: Chris, The correct age of the universe is 13.7 BILLION years... Edgar On Sep 24, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: Slight nit pick: The universe has only lasted about 14,700 million years; not million million years yet. Thanks,

Re: [Zen] the green dragon

2012-09-24 Thread Edgar Owen
Chris, The correct age of the universe is 13.7 BILLION years... Edgar On Sep 24, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: > Slight nit pick: > > > The universe has only lasted about 14,700 million years; not million million > years yet. > > > Thanks, > > --Chris > ch...@austin-lan

Re: [Zen] the green dragon

2012-09-24 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
I took maths in England, hence my post. I also talk about "Zed-Eff" set theory, and "zed this and that" complex analysis. There is an interesting tho bleak sci-fi series that speculates about what the universe might look like in a trillion (a million million, or a British Billion) years (extrapol

Re: [Zen] the green dragon

2012-09-24 Thread William Rintala
Chris:         You are correct.  I have heard (but have never verified it) that the British don't say billions but instead might say thousand million.  That's what I meant to say.  B Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! From: Chris Austin-Lane To

[Zen] Merle's upsidedown life

2012-09-24 Thread William Rintala
Are any of you familiar with the Theory of Continental Drip? Have you seen the "Australian Map of the World"? http://www.flourish.org/upsidedownmap/  B Find what makes your heart sing…and do it!

Re: [Zen] the green dragon

2012-09-24 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
Slight nit pick: The universe has only lasted about 14,700 million years; not million million years yet. Thanks, --Chris ch...@austin-lane.net +1-301-270-6524 On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:07 AM, William Rintala wrote: > sics. In geology we speak of hundreds of millions of years, just as > Joe

Re: [Zen] the green dragon

2012-09-24 Thread William Rintala
Happy birthday Merle.   My inital college degrees are Geology and Geophysics.  In geology we speak of hundreds of millions of years, just as Joe might speak in terms of billions or million millions of years and even those chunks of time are but an instant in eternity.  Life on earth began 600 m

Re: [Zen] Re: Underground (part 1) - YouTube

2012-09-24 Thread William Rintala
And I am B, Bill, William and I watch the first segment which I found disturbing.  The chaos and images invoked the works of Sacha Baron Cohen (Borat, Bruno and The Dictator) who I am sure is brilliant but whose works disturb me as well.   B Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! _

[Zen] Re: Underground (part 1) - YouTube

2012-09-24 Thread Bill!
I am Bill! I'm not a dragon. I did not watch the video. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester wrote: > > > >  so there are 2 bills?..i do not know who is who..i see bill 2 comes under > william..maybe he needs to stick to that or figure out which dragon he is..i > did no

Re: [Zen] Re: Underground (part 1) - YouTube

2012-09-24 Thread Merle Lester
 so there are 2 bills?..i do not know who is who..i see bill 2 comes under william..maybe he needs to stick to that or figure out which dragon he is..i did not think you's be like that bill!...i was a bit saddened to think you's be so quick to judge...,,Bill!... please clarify for me that it i

[Zen] Re: Underground (part 1) - YouTube

2012-09-24 Thread Bill!
Merle, I'm not sure if you're responding to Bill or Bill! I have not watched any of the film so have not judged it. Bill seems to have watched at least some of it and it made him uncomfortable. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester wrote: > > > >  Bill...what is more per

Re: [Zen] Re: Underground (part 1) - YouTube

2012-09-24 Thread Merle Lester
 Bill...what is more personal than it is brilliant and have you watched it..the whole film..you are judging a film by one segment... that's like judging..part of a very excellent classic novel by one chapterno/ yes/... you and i know this is not the way,... "judge thee not by the cover