Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Jim Idle
> On 14.04.2016 09:41, Pieter Hintjens wrote: > >> So an added criteria for any new platform is ability to import our > archives. > >> > >> Free is a plus iff the hosting business is long term reliable. > >> > >> Conventional email interface is a plus. > >> > https://developers.google.com/admin-sd

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread alex.
I have to take back my vote for librelist. By chance I read some Mails from Flask (a python web-framework) which used to host their mailing-lists there and decided to move to mail.python.org. Turns out librelist didn't use mailman and some users were unable to subscribe to the list, while Zed S

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Jim Idle
You just add your email address to the google list - you don't actually need a Google account. Thre is really no difference to now. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Jeff Shanab wrote: > I am also a mostly silent lurker and will probably not follow a google > group. :-( > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 a

Re: [zeromq-dev] build problem after mlm_client.xml change

2016-04-14 Thread Matjaž Ostroveršnik
In the mean time I found out that it is not necessary to change anything. Just do gsl on mlm_client.xml (started from src folder as required by Pieter). I am working on ostri/malamute, but it should be in sync with zeromq/malamute. On 14.4.2016 16:33, Osiris Pedroso wrote: Hi Matjaz, Can you

Re: [zeromq-dev] build problem after mlm_client.xml change

2016-04-14 Thread Osiris Pedroso
Hi Matjaz, Can you provide a repository with the modified file checked in? I would like to try it as well. Thanks, Osiris On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:12 AM Matjaž Ostroveršnik < matjaz.ostrovers...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to add a new method to the mlm_client.xml and then regenerate

Re: [zeromq-dev] Using GSL to design an FSM protocol and translate it into a CSP protocol

2016-04-14 Thread alex.
Thanks Bjorn, that seems exactly like what I was looking for. And if I do it correctly, I should be able to get a GSL template working that translates (simple) FSMs into TLA+. If I ever come to that stage I'd be glad to share it. Seems kinda cool in my head: building nice networking protocols wit

[zeromq-dev] build problem after mlm_client.xml change

2016-04-14 Thread Matjaž Ostroveršnik
Hi, I tried to add a new method to the mlm_client.xml and then regenerate all dependant files. Generation of include/mlm_client.h is unsuccesful (i.e. one gets xml garbage within the c header sources) Am I doing something wrong or this is a bug? Guys how do you regenerate when you change some

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Kyle Kelley
I'm in favor of Google groups, relative to the alternatives. On Thursday, April 14, 2016, Greg Young wrote: > Google groups is a mediocre solution given all the alternatives but > its also quite commonly used so most people are willing to deal with > its warts. The history of the group would be

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Greg Young
Google groups is a mediocre solution given all the alternatives but its also quite commonly used so most people are willing to deal with its warts. The history of the group would be important to bring over if possible (I do not know of an api for bringing it over). On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:45 AM,

Re: [zeromq-dev] Memory management

2016-04-14 Thread Jeff Shanab
Thanks I think I have some Ideas to try, On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 7:08 AM, Auer, Jens wrote: > Hi, > > there is zmq_msg_init_data which gets a callback which is called when the > message is released. However, it is not fully zero-copy because some > copying is done when receiving messages. With 4

Re: [zeromq-dev] Memory management

2016-04-14 Thread Auer, Jens
Hi, there is zmq_msg_init_data which gets a callback which is called when the message is released. However, it is not fully zero-copy because some copying is done when receiving messages. With 4.2, this is reduced, but until that, the data is received into a fixed buffer and then copied into th

Re: [zeromq-dev] Server (router) stops receiving messages after awhile

2016-04-14 Thread Luka Napotnik
I created a minimal test case but couldn't reproduce the problem: http://pastie.org/private/e9i8ikon6evtxfvbs5b4nq The code is in go and I tag every request with an ID so the replies match to the requests. I tried the handover flag but it doesn't help. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Doron Somec

Re: [zeromq-dev] Server (router) stops receiving messages after awhile

2016-04-14 Thread Doron Somech
Are you using identities for the clients? If so try enabling router handover. On Apr 14, 2016 12:13, "Pieter Hintjens" wrote: > Can you make a minimal test case that reproduces this? > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Luka Napotnik > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > my client sends requests (as a

Re: [zeromq-dev] Using GSL to design an FSM protocol and translate it into a CSP protocol

2016-04-14 Thread Bjorn Reese
On 04/14/2016 11:30 AM, alex. wrote: > Anyway after doing a little more research some papers indicated that a > better approach for writing communication protocols would be > communicating sequential processes (CSP). But they are somewhat of an > antithesis to FSMs: their basic elements are proces

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Alex Bligh
On 14 Apr 2016, at 08:41, Pieter Hintjens wrote: > So an added criteria for any new platform is ability to import our archives. > > Free is a plus iff the hosting business is long term reliable. > > Conventional email interface is a plus. Additional criterion (satisfied by Google Groups and m

[zeromq-dev] Memory management

2016-04-14 Thread Jeff Shanab
I am writing an app in C++ and using libzmq directly, not much of the c++ wrapper stuff. I am interested in zero copy or at least minimizing the number of copies of large buffers. But am running across an all too common issue, Each library used wants to have their own memory management forcing me

Re: [zeromq-dev] Using GSL to design an FSM protocol and translate it into a CSP protocol

2016-04-14 Thread alex.
Haha, yeah I was expecting no one would understand my request. The troubles of being short and concise. I also forgot to include the links I had prepared. :( So as a short explanation, communicating sequential processes is a model developed by Tony Hoare in 1978 which is sort of like state machine

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread alex.
Also a 'nay' on Google Groups from me. And I also concur with Lionel Orry: Librelist is just awesome. Personally I've had the best mailing list experience with lists hosted their - although that might just say something about the quality of the projects hosted there. Afaik it also uses mailman an

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Alex Bligh
On 14 Apr 2016, at 10:46, Jeff Shanab wrote: > I am also a mostly silent lurker and will probably not follow a google group. > :-( I've no particular beef for or against Google Groups, but it is entirely possible to follow them like a normal mailing list. The signup feature is hidden a lit

Re: [zeromq-dev] Using GSL to design an FSM protocol and translate it into a CSP protocol

2016-04-14 Thread Kevin Sapper
Also for defining protocols there is zproto ( https://github.com/zeromq/zproto) and to kick start your C project you might check out zproject (https://github.com/zeromq/zproject). Both of them are GSL tools so if they're not what your looking for the might help you as an example for your on GSL pro

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Jeff Shanab
I am also a mostly silent lurker and will probably not follow a google group. :-( On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:05 AM, Dinu Gherman wrote: > Hi! > > I'm a silent lurker here, but I would most likely stop following this list > after a move to google groups. I don't like imposing the use of an account

Re: [zeromq-dev] Using GSL to design an FSM protocol and translate it into a CSP protocol

2016-04-14 Thread Pieter Hintjens
I don't understand half of what you're asking :) But in any case do take a look at the tiny FSM / C code generator (https://github.com/imatix/gsl/blob/b0aa393a6d00df2859f21aab0ccf6f203e18db96/examples/fsm_c.gsl) that I've used happily in a few projects already. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 11:30 AM, al

[zeromq-dev] Using GSL to design an FSM protocol and translate it into a CSP protocol

2016-04-14 Thread alex.
First of all I wasn't really sure if it's okay to talk about the GSL Universal Code Generator on this list, but I am writing anyway since it didn't have its own mailing list. So forgive any insolence. :) I was planning on writing my thesis about a traffic analysis resistant multi-user file-transf

Re: [zeromq-dev] Server (router) stops receiving messages after awhile

2016-04-14 Thread Pieter Hintjens
Can you make a minimal test case that reproduces this? On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Luka Napotnik wrote: > Hello, > > my client sends requests (as a DEALER socket) and the server (a ROUTER > socket) handles the request and sends the reply back (taking the route > path into account) . Now, a

[zeromq-dev] Server (router) stops receiving messages after awhile

2016-04-14 Thread Luka Napotnik
Hello, my client sends requests (as a DEALER socket) and the server (a ROUTER socket) handles the request and sends the reply back (taking the route path into account) . Now, at start, everything works but after awhile, messages, sent from the client, don't get recv()-ed by the server anymore. Wha

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Pieter Hintjens
So an added criteria for any new platform is ability to import our archives. Free is a plus iff the hosting business is long term reliable. Conventional email interface is a plus. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Indradhanush Gupta wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Jim Idle wrote:

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Indradhanush Gupta
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Jim Idle wrote: > Also usually a lurker here, but I am all in favor of Google Groups. > Generally much better than the mailing list software. Can be a change for > some people of course. But +1 from me for what it's worth. > > Jim > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:05

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Jim Idle
Also usually a lurker here, but I am all in favor of Google Groups. Generally much better than the mailing list software. Can be a change for some people of course. But +1 from me for what it's worth. Jim On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Dinu Gherman wrote: > Hi! > > I'm a silent lurker here, b

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Dinu Gherman
Hi! I'm a silent lurker here, but I would most likely stop following this list after a move to google groups. I don't like imposing the use of an account already connecting to lots of data where any email address anywhere would be just what is needed. Sure, you can user other identities, but th