Re: [zfs-discuss] Preferred backup mechanism for ZFS?

2007-04-21 Thread Wee Yeh Tan
On 4/20/07, Tim Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My initial reaction is that the world has got by without file systems that can do this for a long time...so I don't see the absence of this as a big deal. On the other hand, it hard to argue against a feature that I admit that this is "typically

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bandwidth requirements (was Re: Preferred backup mechanism for ZFS?)

2007-04-21 Thread Ian Collins
Torrey McMahon wrote: > Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > >>> But a tape in a van is a very high bandwidth connection :) >> >> >> Australia used to get it's usenet feed on FedExed 9-tracks. > > > But you had to put them in the reader upside down and read them back > to front. > > Not necessary, upside dow

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS+NFS on storedge 6120 (sun t4)

2007-04-21 Thread Torrey McMahon
Don't take this as gospel, and someone chime in if I'm off here, but I just saw an ARC case about this issue The fw in the T3 line might already take the NV_SYNC request. If it doesn't then we'll have a conf file where you can set it per array. Also, I would think the module or conf file w

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bandwidth requirements (was Re: Preferred backup mechanism for ZFS?)

2007-04-21 Thread Torrey McMahon
Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: But a tape in a van is a very high bandwidth connection :) Australia used to get it's usenet feed on FedExed 9-tracks. But you had to put them in the reader upside down and read them back to front. ___ zfs-discuss mailing l

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS+NFS on storedge 6120 (sun t4)

2007-04-21 Thread Erblichs
Spencer, Summary: I am not sure that v4 would have a significant advantage over v3 or v2 in all envirs. I just believe it can have a significant advantage (no/minimal drawbacks) and one should use it if at all possbile to verify that it is not the bottleneck

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs performance on fuse (Linux) compared to other fs

2007-04-21 Thread Matt Ingenthron
I'm potentially stepping in areas I don't quite know enough about, but others can jump in if I speak any mistruths :) More inline... Georg-W. Koltermann wrote: Hi, ok I know zfs-fuse is still incomplete and performance has not been considered, but still, before I'm going to use it for m

[zfs-discuss] Volume copy of master system with zfs

2007-04-21 Thread Asif Iqbal
I have a master system w/ few non-glabal zones on zfs fs runnin sol 10 11/06. I need to build few systems using the master system as the master image. I know I can't flasharchive the whole system. I could just flasharchive non-zfs fs and use that to jumpstart the other boxes. Then use zfs send |

[zfs-discuss] zfs performance on fuse (Linux) compared to other fs

2007-04-21 Thread Georg-W. Koltermann
Hi, ok I know zfs-fuse is still incomplete and performance has not been considered, but still, before I'm going to use it for my /home I wanted a rough estimate. Another benchmark already asserted that zfs by itself, on Solaris, is a very fast beast (http://cmynhier.blogspot.com/2006/05/zfs-ben

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS+NFS on storedge 6120 (sun t4)

2007-04-21 Thread Spencer Shepler
On Apr 21, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Andy Lubel wrote: so what you are saying is that if we were using NFS v4 things should be dramatically better? I certainly don't support this assertion (if it was being made). NFSv4 does have some advantages from the perspective of enabling more aggressive file

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Generic "filesystem code" list/community for opensolaris ?

2007-04-21 Thread Mark Phalan
On 21 Apr 2007, at 04:42, Rich Brown wrote: Hi, so far, discussing filesystem code via opensolaris means a certain "specialization", in the sense that we do have: zfs-discuss ufs-discuss fuse-discuss Likewise, there are ZFS, NFS and UFS communities (though I can't quite figure out if we hav

Re: [zfs-discuss] 6410 expansion shelf

2007-04-21 Thread Louwtjie Burger
The controller unit contains all of the cache. On 4/21/07, Albert Chin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 01:21:04PM -0700, Frank Cusack wrote: > Does anyone have a 6140 expansion shelf that they can hook directly to > a host? Just wondering if this configuration works. Previo

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS copies and fault tolerance

2007-04-21 Thread Bill Moore
See my blog on this topic: http://blogs.sun.com/bill/entry/ditto_blocks_the_amazing_tape The quick summary is that if there is more than one vdev comprising the pool, the copies will be spread across multiple vdevs. If there is only one, then the copies are spread out physically (at least by

[zfs-discuss] ZFS copies and fault tolerance

2007-04-21 Thread Mario Goebbels
The filesystem allows to keep two or more copies of the data written. What I'm interested in to know is how the placement of the copies is done. Consider a JBOD pool, having set the filesystem to keep two copies, will the copies be actively placed on two different volumes, as such allowing to su

RE: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS+NFS on storedge 6120 (sun t4)

2007-04-21 Thread Andy Lubel
so what you are saying is that if we were using NFS v4 things should be dramatically better? do you think this applies to any NFS v4 client or only Suns? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Erblichs Sent: Sun 4/22/2007 4:50 AM To: Leon Koll Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolar

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS+NFS on storedge 6120 (sun t4)

2007-04-21 Thread Albert Chin
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 09:05:01AM +0200, Selim Daoud wrote: > isn't there another flag in /etc/system to force zfs not to send flush > requests to NVRAM? I think it's zfs_nocacheflush=1, according to Matthew Ahrens in http://blogs.digitar.com/jjww/?itemid=44. > s. > > > On 4/20/07, Marion Haka

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS+NFS on storedge 6120 (sun t4)

2007-04-21 Thread Erblichs
Leon Koll, As a knowldegeable outsider I can say something. The benchbark (SFS) page specifies NFSv3,v2 support, so I question whether you ra n NFSv4. I would expect a major change in performance just to version 4 NFS version and ZFS. The benchmark seems

[zfs-discuss] Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-04-21 Thread William D. Hathaway
Hi Lori, Thanks to you and your team for posting the zfs boot image kit. I was able to jumpstart a VMWare virtual machine using a Nevada b62 image patched with your conversion kit and it went very smoothly. Here is the profile that I used: # Jumpstart profile for VMWare image w/ two emulated

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS+NFS on storedge 6120 (sun t4)

2007-04-21 Thread Selim Daoud
Roch, isn't there another flag in /etc/system to force zfs not to send flush requests to NVRAM? s. On 4/20/07, Marion Hakanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > We have been combing the message boards and it looks like there was a lot of > talk about this interaction of zfs