Re: [zfs-discuss] utf8only-property

2008-02-28 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
So, I set utf8only=on and try to create a file with a filename that is a byte array that can't be decoded to text using UTF-8. What's supposed to happen? Should fopen(), or whatever syscall 'touch' uses, fail? Should the syscall somehow escape utf8-incompatible bytes, or maybe replace

Re: [zfs-discuss] Performance with Sun StorageTek 2540

2008-02-28 Thread Paul Van Der Zwan
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Cyril Plisko wrote: http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/zfs-discuss/2540-zfs-performance.pdf Nov 26, 2008 ??? May I borrow your time machine ? ;-) Are there any stock prices you would like to know about? Perhaps you are interested in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool core dumped

2008-02-28 Thread Piotr Tarnowski
S10U4 SPARC on V890 + patches, StorageTek 6140 + CSM200 Generic_127111-09 The same issue, still don't patched ? If I set NOINUSE_CHECK=1 pool is created succesfully Regards -- Piotr (DrFugazi) Tarnowski This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Uwe Dippel
[i]Consider this to be your life's mission.[/i] Bob, I can do without this. Richard, [i]Actually I use several browsers every day. Each browser has a cache located somewhere in my home directory and the cache is managed so that it won't grow very large. With CDP, I would fill my disk in a week

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Christine Tran
Alan Perry wrote: Alan Perry wrote: I gave a talk on ZFS at a local user group meeting this evening. What I didn't know going in was that the meeting was hosted at a Novell consulting shop. I got asked a lot of what does ZFS do that NSS doesn't do questions that I could not

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Joe Blount
A good handful of people approached me later, being curious and fascinated by the idea to replace the backup scheduler with an event-driven creation of the versions. Uwe, I'm still struggling to decide if ADM is what you're looking for. When you make comments like the one quoted above, I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Uwe Dippel wrote: 1. The application (NFS - sftp) does not know about the state of writing? Sometimes applications know about the state of writing and sometimes they do not. Sometimes they don't even know they are writing. 2. Obviously nobody sees anything in having

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 07:55:45AM -0800, Joe Blount wrote: * Application aware/driven CDP solves the file sanity challenge by being explicitly told by the app. But this will have an inherently limited market because it relies on application support. Basically: it works, but requires

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 13:43 -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: How was it MVFS could do this without any changes to the shells or any other programs? I ClearCase could 'grep FOO /dir1/dir2/file@@/main/*' to see which version of 'file' added FOO. (I think @@ was the special hidden key. It might

Re: [zfs-discuss] path-name encodings

2008-02-28 Thread Marcus Sundman
Bart Smaalders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm unable to find more info about this. E.g., what does reject file names mean in practice? E.g., if a program tries to create a file using an utf8-incompatible filename, what happens? Does the fopen() fail? Would this normally be a problem? E.g.,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Tim
On 2/28/08, Christine Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Perry wrote: Alan Perry wrote: I gave a talk on ZFS at a local user group meeting this evening. What I didn't know going in was that the meeting was hosted at a Novell consulting shop. I got asked a lot of what does

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Kyle McDonald
Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 13:43 -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: How was it MVFS could do this without any changes to the shells or any other programs? I ClearCase could 'grep FOO /dir1/dir2/file@@/main/*' to see which version of 'file' added FOO. (I think @@ was the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cause for data corruption?

2008-02-28 Thread MC
So I scrubbed the whole pool and it found a lot more corrupted files. My condolences :) General questions and comments about ZFS and data corruption: I thought RAIDZ would correct data errors automatically with the parity data. How wrong am I on that? Perhaps a parity correction was

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Kyle McDonald wrote: Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 13:43 -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: How was it MVFS could do this without any changes to the shells or any other programs? I ClearCase could 'grep FOO /dir1/dir2/file@@/main/*' to see which version of 'file' added FOO.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Kyle McDonald
Mark Shellenbaum wrote: Kyle McDonald wrote: Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 13:43 -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: How was it MVFS could do this without any changes to the shells or any other programs? I ClearCase could 'grep FOO /dir1/dir2/file@@/main/*' to see which

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Richard Elling
Bill Sommerfeld wrote: Doing the same as an alternate view on snapshot space would be a simple matter of programming within ZFS, though the magic token/suffix to get you into version/snapshot space would likely not be POSIX compliant.. We already have a POSIX compliant file system for

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Darren J Moffat
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Is it possible to create a ZFS pool using a backing file created in xattr space? Why would you want to do that ? I tried but could get it to work with the CLI. However it may be possible via the (private) libzfs function call interface. da64-x4500b-gmp03# cd /tmp

[zfs-discuss] Does a mirror increase read performance

2008-02-28 Thread Jonathan Loran
Quick question: If I create a ZFS mirrored pool, will the read performance get a boost? In other words, will the data/parity be read round robin between the disks, or do both mirrored sets of data and parity get read off of both disks? The latter case would have a CPU expense, so I would

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Tim
On 2/28/08, Alan Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim wrote: Don't forget, ZFS is open source, and can be ported to any other number of platforms as well. It's also currently supported on FreeBSD 7.0, and is basically production ready on that platform. The open source is HUGE in my

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does a mirror increase read performance

2008-02-28 Thread ian
Jonathan Loran writes: Quick question: If I create a ZFS mirrored pool, will the read performance get a boost? Yes. I use a stripe of mirrors to get better read and write performance. Ian. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does a mirror increase read performance

2008-02-28 Thread Roch Bourbonnais
Le 28 févr. 08 à 20:14, Jonathan Loran a écrit : Quick question: If I create a ZFS mirrored pool, will the read performance get a boost? In other words, will the data/parity be read round robin between the disks, or do both mirrored sets of data and parity get read off of both

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does a mirror increase read performance

2008-02-28 Thread Jonathan Loran
Roch Bourbonnais wrote: Le 28 févr. 08 à 20:14, Jonathan Loran a écrit : Quick question: If I create a ZFS mirrored pool, will the read performance get a boost? In other words, will the data/parity be read round robin between the disks, or do both mirrored sets of data and parity get

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Tim
On 2/28/08, Alan Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim wrote: Don't forget, ZFS is open source, and can be ported to any other number of platforms as well. It's also currently supported on FreeBSD 7.0, and is basically production ready on that platform. The open source is HUGE in my

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does a mirror increase read performance

2008-02-28 Thread Roch Bourbonnais
Le 28 févr. 08 à 21:00, Jonathan Loran a écrit : Roch Bourbonnais wrote: Le 28 févr. 08 à 20:14, Jonathan Loran a écrit : Quick question: If I create a ZFS mirrored pool, will the read performance get a boost? In other words, will the data/parity be read round robin between the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does a mirror increase read performance

2008-02-28 Thread Jonathan Loran
Roch Bourbonnais wrote: Le 28 févr. 08 à 21:00, Jonathan Loran a écrit : Roch Bourbonnais wrote: Le 28 févr. 08 à 20:14, Jonathan Loran a écrit : Quick question: If I create a ZFS mirrored pool, will the read performance get a boost? In other words, will the data/parity be read

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Richard Elling
Tim wrote: The greatest hammer in the world will be inferior to a drill when driving a screw :) The greatest hammer in the world is a rotary hammer, and it works quite well for driving screws or digging through degenerate granite ;-) Need a better analogy. Here's what I use (quite often) on

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Boyd Adamson
Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim wrote: The greatest hammer in the world will be inferior to a drill when driving a screw :) The greatest hammer in the world is a rotary hammer, and it works quite well for driving screws or digging through degenerate granite ;-) Need a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Nathan Kroenert - Server ESG
Hm - Based on this detail from the page: Change lever for switching between Rotation + Hammering , Neutral and Hammering only I'd hope it could still hammer... Though I'd suspect the size of nails it would hammer would be somewhat limited... ;) Nathan. Boyd Adamson wrote: Richard Elling

Re: [zfs-discuss] Permanently removing vdevs from a pool

2008-02-28 Thread Jack Patteeuw
I found this feature to be incredibly useful when managing a Digital Unix system with AdsFS. Migrating to a larger disk (or larger hardware RAID set) was a simple add, remove and wait for the filesystem to clean up. This was done with multiple users online. Good Stuff ! Keep up the good

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Richard Elling
Boyd Adamson wrote: Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim wrote: The greatest hammer in the world will be inferior to a drill when driving a screw :) The greatest hammer in the world is a rotary hammer, and it works quite well for driving screws or digging through

Re: [zfs-discuss] nfs over zfs

2008-02-28 Thread Marion Hakanson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: i am a little new to zfs so please excuse my ignorance. i have a poweredge 2950 running Nevada B82 with an Apple Xraid attached over a fiber hba. they are formatted to JBOD with the pool configured as follows: . . . i have a filesystem (tpool4/seplog) shared over

Re: [zfs-discuss] path-name encodings

2008-02-28 Thread Anton B. Rang
OK, thanks. I still haven't got any answer to my original question, though. I.e., is there some way to know what text the filename is, or do I have to make a more or less wild guess what encoding the program that created the file used? You have to guess. As far as I know, Apple's HFS (and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cause for data corruption?

2008-02-28 Thread Sandro
Thanks for your reassuring post, loomy :) I'm pretty sure the reason for all this is some bad hardware.. But I can't get VTS to work, looks like its not supported for this kind of hardware. And in order to run some other stresstest software or something I would have to connect monitor,