Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Going forward after Oracle - Let's get organized, let's get started.

2011-04-09 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 08:56 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: > > On 04/10/11 05:41 AM, Chris Forgeron wrote: > > > I see your point, but you also have to understand that sometimes too > many helpers/opinions are a bad thing. There is a set "core"

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Going forward after Oracle - Let's get organized, let's get started.

2011-04-09 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 9 Apr 2011, Garrett D'Amore wrote: Right. And in the real world, customers are generally not involved with architectural discussions of products. Their input is collected and feed into the process, but they don't get to sit at the whiteboard with developers as the work on the designs.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Going forward after Oracle - Let's get organized, let's get started.

2011-04-09 Thread Brandon High
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Chris Forgeron wrote: > I see your point, but you also have to understand that sometimes too many > helpers/opinions are a bad thing.  There is a set "core" of ZFS developers > who make a lot of this move forward, and they are the key right now. The rest > of us

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Going forward after Oracle - Let's get organized, let's get started.

2011-04-09 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 08:56 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: > On 04/10/11 05:41 AM, Chris Forgeron wrote: > > I see your point, but you also have to understand that sometimes too many > > helpers/opinions are a bad thing. There is a set "core" of ZFS developers > > who make a lot of this move forward,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Going forward after Oracle - Let's get organized, let's get started.

2011-04-09 Thread Ian Collins
On 04/10/11 09:25 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 08:56 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: On 04/10/11 05:41 AM, Chris Forgeron wrote: I see your point, but you also have to understand that sometimes too many helpers/opinions are a bad thing. There is a set "core" of ZFS developers w

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Going forward after Oracle - Let's get organized, let's get started.

2011-04-09 Thread Ian Collins
On 04/10/11 05:41 AM, Chris Forgeron wrote: I see your point, but you also have to understand that sometimes too many helpers/opinions are a bad thing. There is a set "core" of ZFS developers who make a lot of this move forward, and they are the key right now. The rest of us will just muddy

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Going forward after Oracle - Let's get organized, let's get started.

2011-04-09 Thread Chris Forgeron
I see your point, but you also have to understand that sometimes too many helpers/opinions are a bad thing. There is a set "core" of ZFS developers who make a lot of this move forward, and they are the key right now. The rest of us will just muddy the waters with conflicting/divergent opinions

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540 no next-gen product?

2011-04-09 Thread Julian King
On 9 Apr 2011, at 12:59, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > On 04/09/2011 01:41 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >>> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- >>> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Julian King >>> >>> Actually I think our figures more or less agree. 12 disks = 7 mbits >

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540 no next-gen product?

2011-04-09 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 04/09/2011 01:41 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- >> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Julian King >> >> Actually I think our figures more or less agree. 12 disks = 7 mbits >> 48 disks = 4x7mbits > > I know that sounds like terri

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540 no next-gen product?

2011-04-09 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Julian King > > Actually I think our figures more or less agree. 12 disks = 7 mbits > 48 disks = 4x7mbits I know that sounds like terrible performance to me. Any time I benchmark disks, a che

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540 no next-gen product?

2011-04-09 Thread Julian King
On 8 Apr 2011, at 19:43, Marion Hakanson wrote: >> which peak at around 7 Gb/s down a 10G link (in reality I don't need that >> much because it is all about the IOPS for me). That is with just twelve 15k >> disks. > > Depending on usage, I disagree with your bandwidth and latency figures