Re: [zfs-discuss] what have you been buying for slog and l2arc?

2012-08-06 Thread Erik Trimble
On 8/6/2012 2:53 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2012, Stefan Ring wrote: Intel's brief also clears up a prior controversy of what types of data are actually cached, per the brief it's both user and system data! So you're saying that SSDs don't generally flush data to stable medium w

Re: [zfs-discuss] what have you been buying for slog and l2arc?

2012-08-06 Thread Christopher George
I mean this as constructive criticism, not as angry bickering. I totally respect you guys doing your own thing. Thanks, I'll try my best to address your comments... *) Increased capacity for high-volume applications. We do have a select number of customers striping two X1s for a total capaci

Re: [zfs-discuss] what have you been buying for slog and l2arc?

2012-08-06 Thread Christopher George
I am glad to hear that both user AND system data is stored. That is rather reassuring. :-) I agree! --- [Excerpt from the linked Intel Technology Brief] What Type of Data is Protected: During an unsafe shutdown, firmware routines in the Int

Re: [zfs-discuss] what have you been buying for slog and l2arc?

2012-08-06 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 08/07/2012 12:12 AM, Christopher George wrote: >> Is your DDRdrive product still supported and moving? > > Yes, we now exclusively target ZIL acceleration. > > We will be at the upcoming OpenStorage Summit 2012, > and encourage those attending to stop by our booth and > say hello :-) > > http

Re: [zfs-discuss] what have you been buying for slog and l2arc?

2012-08-06 Thread Christopher George
Is your DDRdrive product still supported and moving? Yes, we now exclusively target ZIL acceleration. We will be at the upcoming OpenStorage Summit 2012, and encourage those attending to stop by our booth and say hello :-) http://www.openstoragesummit.org/ Is it well supported for Illumos?

Re: [zfs-discuss] what have you been buying for slog and l2arc?

2012-08-06 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012, Stefan Ring wrote: Intel's brief also clears up a prior controversy of what types of data are actually cached, per the brief it's both user and system data! So you're saying that SSDs don't generally flush data to stable medium when instructed to? So data written before an

Re: [zfs-discuss] what have you been buying for slog and l2arc?

2012-08-06 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012, Christopher George wrote: Intel's brief also clears up a prior controversy of what types of data are actually cached, per the brief it's both user and system data! I am glad to hear that both user AND system data is stored. That is rather reassuring. :-) Is your DDRDriv

Re: [zfs-discuss] what have you been buying for slog and l2arc?

2012-08-06 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Stefan Ring wrote: > So you're saying that SSDs don't generally flush data to stable medium > when instructed to? So data written before an fsync is not guaranteed > to be seen after a power-down? It depends on the model. Consumer models are less likely to immediat

Re: [zfs-discuss] what have you been buying for slog and l2arc?

2012-08-06 Thread Stefan Ring
> Unfortunately, the Intel 520 does *not* power protect it's > on-board volatile cache (unlike the Intel 320/710 SSD). > > Intel has an eye-opening technology brief, describing the > benefits of "power-loss data protection" at: > > http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/ssd-320-s

Re: [zfs-discuss] what have you been buying for slog and l2arc?

2012-08-06 Thread Christopher George
Are people getting intel 330's for l2arc and 520's for slog? Unfortunately, the Intel 520 does *not* power protect it's on-board volatile cache (unlike the Intel 320/710 SSD). Intel has an eye-opening technology brief, describing the benefits of "power-loss data protection" at: http://www.inte

Re: [zfs-discuss] Missing Disk Space

2012-08-06 Thread Stefan Ring
Have you not seen my answer? http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2012-August/052170.html ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Missing Disk Space

2012-08-06 Thread Burt Hailey
Thanks for the responses. I read the docs that Cindy suggested and they were educational but I still don't understand where the missing disk space is. I used the zfs list command and added up all space used. If I'm reading it right, I have <250GB of snapshots. Zpool list shows that the pool si

Re: [zfs-discuss] what have you been buying for slog and l2arc?

2012-08-06 Thread Matt Breitbach
Stec ZeusRAM for Slog - it's exensive and small, but it's the best out there. OCZ Talos C for L2ARC. -Original Message- From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Bob Friesenhahn Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:40 PM To: Karl Rossin

Re: [zfs-discuss] number of blocks changes

2012-08-06 Thread Justin Stringfellow
> I think for the cleanness of the experiment, you should also include "sync" after the dd's, to actually commit your file to the pool. OK that 'fixes' it: finsdb137@root> dd if=/dev/random of=ob bs=128k count=1 && sync && while true > do > ls -s ob > sleep 1 > done 0+1 records in 0+1 records o

Re: [zfs-discuss] number of blocks changes

2012-08-06 Thread Justin Stringfellow
>Can you check whether this happens from /dev/urandom as well? It does: finsdb137@root> dd if=/dev/urandom of=oub bs=128k count=1 && while true > do > ls -s oub > sleep 1 > done 0+1 records in 0+1 records out    1 oub    1 oub    1 oub    1 oub    1 oub    4 oub    4 oub    4 oub    4 oub    4