Re: [zfs-discuss] zvol wrapped in a vmdk by Virtual Box and double writes?

2012-11-20 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2012-11-21 03:21, nathan wrote: Overall, the pain of the doubling of bandwidth requirements seems like a big downer for *my* configuration, as I have just the one SSD, but I'll persist and see what I can get out of it. I might also speculate that for each rewritten block of userdata in the V

Re: [zfs-discuss] zvol wrapped in a vmdk by Virtual Box and double writes?

2012-11-20 Thread nathan
Hi folks, some extra thoughts: 1. Don't question why. :) I'm playing and observing, so I ultimately know and understand the best way to do things! heh. 2. In fairness, asking why is entirely valid. ;) I'm not doing things to best practice just yet - I wanted the best performance for my VM's,

Re: [zfs-discuss] zvol wrapped in a vmdk by Virtual Box and double writes?

2012-11-20 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: > Why are you parititoning, then creating zpool, The common case it's often because they use the disk for something else as well (e.g. OS), not only for zfs > and then creating zvol? Because it ena

Re: [zfs-discuss] zvol wrapped in a vmdk by Virtual Box and double writes?

2012-11-20 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Kroenert > > I chopped into a few slices - p0 (partition table), p1 128GB, p2 60gb. > > As part of my work, I have used it both as a RAW device (cxtxdxp1) and > wrapped partition 1 with

Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-11-20 Thread Peter Tripp
Hi Jerry, Couple of things that might help you troubleshoot your Intel SASUC8I HBA: 1. Are you seeing all the 8 devices in the BIOS for the card? 2. If yes, do other operating systems (say a Linux LiveCD) see all the disks too? 3. Is there any difference between the disks (e.g. four 2TB Seagate

Re: [zfs-discuss] zvol wrapped in a vmdk by Virtual Box and double writes?

2012-11-20 Thread Peter Tripp
Hi Nathan, You've misunderstood how the Zil works and why it reduces write latency for synchronous writes. Since you've partitioned a single SSD into two silces, one as pool storage and one as Zil for that pool, all sync writes will be 2X amplified. There's no way around it. ZFS will write to

Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-11-20 Thread Gregg Wonderly
I have seen some drives not be recognized on a hot plug, but cfgadm seemed to always fix that. I don't recall a cold boot not recognizing the drives. Does the bios boot of the card show all of the drives connected? I did not update the firmware in the cards that I bought. Gregg On Nov 19, 20

[zfs-discuss] zvol wrapped in a vmdk by Virtual Box and double writes?

2012-11-20 Thread Nathan Kroenert
Hi folks, (Long time no post...) Only starting to get into this one, so apologies if I'm light on detail, but... I have a shiny SSD I'm using to help make some VirtualBox stuff I'm doing go fast. I have a 240GB Intel 520 series jobbie. Nice. I chopped into a few slices - p0 (partition ta

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Recommendations: SAS2 JBODs

2012-11-20 Thread Peter Tripp
Hi Cedric, Sorry for the delayed reply, SATA vs SAS is a subject many ZFS sysadmins (including myself until recently) are completely ignorant about. I'm still not super knowledgable about STP, but here goes. Normal SAS devices communicate with your controller via Serial SCSI Protocol (SSP), wh